Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Arum Might Keep Crawford From Making HOF!

[factsarenice]

I'm not sure if you knew there are weight classes... and that Crawford was a Jr Welterweight. Crawford made history unifying 4 belts at Jr Welterweight.

More over, any attempt to cheapen that accomplishment by scouring though time and weight classes in an effort to water down his achievement doesn't make you witty or smart it makes you a hack in search of an angle to discredit greatness. No matter what you or old tool say, if Crawford quit tomorrow he made history and the HOF doing something nobody else could accomplish.

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I’m not sure how old you are bro but please take a look at a look at these three guys;
Joe Calzaghe, Roy Jones Jr. & Andre Ward.

Calzaghe unified the 168Ibs division
Roy cleaned up 175 - of course there are many naysayers that say he ducked Maschilewski which is just not true.

Ward on the other hand was in the Super Six tournament which pitted the top guys at 168 and Ward cleaned it up. There is just no better way to make a case for being undisputed than that.

So, while Crawford did clear 140, he’s not the only one in history to accomplish such a feat.

[factsarenice]

Crawford was a Jr Welterweight, OBVIOUSLY I was talking about his historic Jr Welterweight unification. Unfortunately, the OBVIOUS escapes your self-evident, idiotic PBC cult worship.

Didn’t Usyk capture all 4 belts? Didn’t the young lady from Norway do it as well? Jermaine Taylor did it too....those are off the top of my head but if I were to look it up I’m sure I could name more. I do think that kid you responded to is very young though, either that or mentally disordered

[sicko]

Bud is already a Hall of Famer but with that being said I get what Oscar means

It is not many True Boxing Superstars through out the history of this sport so expecting any and every fighter to become STAR is kinda Laughable. It will never happen for some fighters that is the harsh reality. Not saying Bud is that guy but it is possible for sure.

To Jack Johnson it was Sam Langford and Harry Wills, To Ray Robinson it was a Charlie Burley, to Ali it was a Ken Norton and Floyd Patterson...meaning that "The More Talented" doesn't always become the biggest star and the biggest draw in this sport. In Fact often times the most talented was always the most underrated and struggled to land the big fights that is how it always been and it is still like that now with guys like Crawford, Andrade and others

Often times the most talented was indeed frozen out because the Powers That Be in the sport had other fighters they wanted to be Superstars and they KNEW what would happen if they was to put their Chosen STAR in with that more talented fighter

Bud just have to be patient, but at the same time be more out-spoken and Vocal. Don't be mad with the PBC Guys, it is not PBC Job to send him quality opponents. It is Arum and Top Rank Job to make the investment to give him more quality opponents even if it means overpaying to get a Danny Garcia to go over and fight Bud, similar to Eddie Hearn paying Charles Martin to go over to the UK for a Ridiculous amount of money that he wasn't worth at all

[P4P Forever]

Funny Oscars jabbing Arum. Crawford is going to be 32 yo next week. That's not prime. Crawford is very good, we may not get to see how good he really is. Funny how everyone wrote Pac off after the Horn fight. Crawford was the man at the time. Moving Forward 2 years Crawford fighting the lowest level compilation of his career. A fight that no one care the least about. Pac fighting some of the best, now everyone wants to fight Pac man and no wants to fight Crawford. Pac's loss got him out of the contract and gave him a 3rd life. Crawford screwed

[factsarenice]

Bud is already a Hall of Famer but with that being said I get what Oscar means

It is not many True Boxing Superstars through out the history of this sport so expecting any and every fighter to become STAR is kinda Laughable. It will never happen for some fighters that is the harsh reality. Not saying Bud is that guy but it is possible for sure.

To Jack Johnson it was Sam Langford and Harry Wills, To Ray Robinson it was a Charlie Burley, to Ali it was a Ken Norton and Floyd Patterson...meaning that "The More Talented" doesn't always become the biggest star and the biggest draw in this sport. In Fact often times the most talented was always the most underrated and struggled to land the big fights that is how it always been and it is still like that now with guys like Crawford, Andrade and others

Often times the most talented was indeed frozen out because the Powers That Be in the sport had other fighters they wanted to be Superstars and they KNEW what would happen if they was to put their Chosen STAR in with that more talented fighter

Bud just have to be patient, but at the same time be more out-spoken and Vocal. Don't be mad with the PBC Guys, it is not PBC Job to send him quality opponents. It is Arum and Top Rank Job to make the investment to give him more quality opponents even if it means overpaying to get a Danny Garcia to go over and fight Bud, similar to Eddie Hearn paying Charles Martin to go over to the UK for a Ridiculous amount of money that he wasn't worth at all

Good points all...no question about it. That said, Danny was offered 5 million

[factsarenice]

Arum built Manny into the star that he is and Manny left when his contract was up. Nobody including Manny ever wanted to fight Crawford, that's not something new.

Funny Oscars jabbing Arum. Crawford is going to be 32 yo next week. That's not prime. Crawford is very good, we may not get to see how good he really is. Funny how everyone wrote Pac off after the Horn fight. Crawford was the man at the time. Moving Forward 2 years Crawford fighting the lowest level compilation of his career. A fight that no one care the least about. Pac fighting some of the best, now everyone wants to fight Pac man and no wants to fight Crawford. Pac's loss got him out of the contract and gave him a 3rd life. Crawford screwed

[PoserExposer]

Terrence Crawford will never be schooled for 12 rounds by ANY fighter as Canelo was. He’ll never draw against anyone either. That’s the difference between the two. Oscar and Canelo swore they were ready for Floyd and we witnessed a complete embarrassment. Crawford at this age has long surpassed what Canelo has done in every weight class he was in. Canelo has never been undisputed at any weight class. He’s the biggest draw yes but don’t be a fool to think Terence Crawford isn’t going to the Hall of Fame, that’s a no brainer.

[factsarenice]

The real question is does Arum and Hearn get it? Do you think Arum knows Wilder and the PBC need Fury rematch? Or that Charlo needs to find, well....another career? The leverage thing is a two way street.

If Spence takes Porters belt the only one left is Crawford. If Bud didn’t have belt they wouldn’t fight him Haymon has all elite WW they can round robin Arum has no leverage don’t you all get it

[sicko]

Good points all...no question about it. That said, Danny was offered 5 million

I thought Bob Said or it could've been Bud Trainer/Manager BoMac that said it was $3 Million and the reasoning made sense, I think one of them said because it was going to be on ESPN and not PPV which is why he was offered less than Khan

[Oregonian]

Didn’t Usyk capture all 4 belts? Didn’t the young lady from Norway do it as well? Jermaine Taylor did it too....those are off the top of my head but if I were to look it up I’m sure I could name more. I do think that kid you responded to is very young though, either that or mentally disordered

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You are correct. I just listed those three because of their significance historically and their longevity.
Taylor somehow just got derailed mentally and got sidelined by the massive KO’s he went through
Regardless, you are correct 100%