Lineal vs Traditional

[Marchegiano]

Sorry my man but that is way too long...

Wrong in what sense?

I was just pointing out that the lineal championship couldn’t have died with Jeffries.

As it was either re-established between Hack and Root, and then eventually found its way to Johnson.

Or taken directly from Jeffries once he returned and was defeated by Johnson.

Well, it's long because I'm trying to explain normally I'd consider a complaint or criticism as nominal as this unimportant, so, I definitely understand a sort of, wtf, that's basically what I said, response.


Jeffries didn't elect a new lineage, there's one lineage as far as Jeffries is concerned. The idea that there are new lineages is newer than Jeffries time. Like the term lineal in boxing. Jeffries wouldn't call himself lineal nor would he call Hart the start of a new lineage.

However, it is a popular explanation and on this subject matter popular is what matters most, so, maybe you're right?

I'm just asking you to choose a side really.

Because I can tell the story of Jeffries but I can not tell a story where Jeffries elects a champion for a new lineage because that's not part of his story.

To tell that story one has to get into the ins and outs of Ring misconceptions and popularized fan beliefs.

If you tell both stories at the same time, lineal is basically whatever whenever. It doesn't help to explain what that title actually represents or how it moves.

[techliam]

There are multiple variations of the lineal championship

This comes from the fact that people can disagree on who ranks where

CBZ and TBRB occasionally disagree on lineal champions

Then there’s variations of the rule sets. The RING for a long time was a lineal system in the traditional sense, but then widened its criteria.

It’s as fractured as the standard championship system

[ShaneMosleySr]

There used to be one champion 99% of the time.

So it’s tracking who the champion would be if there was still one champion.