What will the weight difference be between Canelo and Kovalev on fight night?

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  • ruedboy
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    What will the weight difference be between Canelo and Kovalev on fight night?

    At the weigh-in for Fielding, Canelo looked lean and muscular at just under 168 pounds. It seems like he could easily weigh a fit 185 after rehydrating for the Kovalev fight.
    Kovalev usually rehydrates 10-15 pounds, so I think they would likely be fairly close in weight.
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    I've never seen a Kovalev fight night weight listed above 186, many were listed to speculated to be 184 or below. That's probably where Canelo will be at.

    Duva said Kovalev was 181 in the Alvarez rematch and that basically thats why his stamina was better or something to that effect. Would match with what people have been saying that Kovalev got old, stamina went to ****, but they found a way to rezig the puzzle so that by sacrificing some of his power, which he had an oversupply of, he could get 12 round stamina back and still compete in 12 round world championship boxing.

    But to do that, had to make him a little smaller, less strong, less powerful.

    Could be true. Who knows. Then again maybe hes just as strong, but hes fighting stronger guys (Alvarez and Yarde), and maybe his stamina is just as bad, but like the Chilemba fight, he pushed through it.

    Look at Kovalev's last three fights. One he got knocked out in the 7th, one he looked to be fading mid rounds but pushed through and boxed beautifully so he didnt quite come close to getting knocked out or anything but he did look vulnerable, and then a third he looked vulnerable and almost got knocked out again, but his opponent gassed and he survived.

    So is it really a different Kovalev in any of those three fights, or is it just one of those, when you're fighting on thin ice like Kovalev does now with his stamina, if you fought 100 times, sometimes the ice breaks, sometimes it doesn't.

    I hope Kovalev wins though. I hope Kovalev wins, passes the torch to Bivol, and it kickstarts a new golden age at 175, meanwhile Canelo goes down to 160, GGG turns back the clock, and we get a new golden age round robin at 160.

    Preparing to be disappointed though. My favorite fighters never get fair fights and it's really frustrating. I guess it's a compliment to them that even when they're old and put at disadvantages, people still consider them top opponents, but it's frustrating.
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      #3
      Originally posted by ruedboy
      At the weigh-in for Fielding, Canelo looked lean and muscular at just under 168 pounds. It seems like he could easily weigh a fit 185 after rehydrating for the Kovalev fight.
      Kovalev usually rehydrates 10-15 pounds, so I think they would likely be fairly close in weight.
      it will be a mistake if canelo goes above 180, why give up speed and stamine for power? canelo should focus on being the faster guy not the strongest.. plus adding more weight is only going to *** up his knees faster..

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        Originally posted by Boxing Logic
        I've never seen a Kovalev fight night weight listed above 186, many were listed to speculated to be 184 or below. That's probably where Canelo will be at.

        Duva said Kovalev was 181 in the Alvarez rematch and that basically thats why his stamina was better or something to that effect. Would match with what people have been saying that Kovalev got old, stamina went to ****, but they found a way to rezig the puzzle so that by sacrificing some of his power, which he had an oversupply of, he could get 12 round stamina back and still compete in 12 round world championship boxing.

        But to do that, had to make him a little smaller, less strong, less powerful.

        Could be true. Who knows. Then again maybe hes just as strong, but hes fighting stronger guys (Alvarez and Yarde), and maybe his stamina is just as bad, but like the Chilemba fight, he pushed through it.

        Look at Kovalev's last three fights. One he got knocked out in the 7th, one he looked to be fading mid rounds but pushed through and boxed beautifully so he didnt quite come close to getting knocked out or anything but he did look vulnerable, and then a third he looked vulnerable and almost got knocked out again, but his opponent gassed and he survived.

        So is it really a different Kovalev in any of those three fights, or is it just one of those, when you're fighting on thin ice like Kovalev does now with his stamina, if you fought 100 times, sometimes the ice breaks, sometimes it doesn't.

        I hope Kovalev wins though. I hope Kovalev wins, passes the torch to Bivol, and it kickstarts a new golden age at 175, meanwhile Canelo goes down to 160, GGG turns back the clock, and we get a new golden age round robin at 160.

        Preparing to be disappointed though. My favorite fighters never get fair fights and it's really frustrating. I guess it's a compliment to them that even when they're old and put at disadvantages, people still consider them top opponents, but it's frustrating.
        There'a a website I think it's Basement Gym Boxing, that gives fight nite weights.
        They have Kovalev coming in at 189 vs Pascal, but I can't vouch for their accuracy.
        I feel the same way about my fighters not winning. These days I try to have less expectations and I find it helps a lot because the judging is a mystery to me.

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          Originally posted by icha
          it will be a mistake if canelo goes above 180, why give up speed and stamine for power? canelo should focus on being the faster guy not the strongest.. plus adding more weight is only going to *** up his knees faster..
          I agree. Speed kills.

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            #6
            kovalev will body up on canelo and everyone will finally see what A HYPE JOB BOY CANELO IS.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ruedboy
              At the weigh-in for Fielding, Canelo looked lean and muscular at just under 168 pounds. It seems like he could easily weigh a fit 185 after rehydrating for the Kovalev fight.
              Kovalev usually rehydrates 10-15 pounds, so I think they would likely be fairly close in weight.
              I agree. little by little Canelo has gotten heavier and it's muscle, not fat. He is done growing now for sure at age 29 but he may be more comfortable fighting at 168 or 175 than at 160. He passed on all middleweights as opponents and skipped his September date to fight Kovalev at 175 so maybe he is done with 160 forever. Time will tell, Canelo is not asking for any catchweight or morning weigh in so good for him. He might be planning to come in at 175 for the weigh in and put on more weight after the weigh in. My guess is if they weigh both boxers on fight night Canelo will weigh 185 and Kovalev will weigh 190. That's just a wild guess of course.

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                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I agree. little by little Canelo has gotten heavier and it's muscle, not fat. He is done growing now for sure at age 29 but he may be more comfortable fighting at 168 or 175 than at 160. He passed on all middleweights as opponents and skipped his September date to fight Kovalev at 175 so maybe he is done with 160 forever. Time will tell, Canelo is not asking for any catchweight or morning weigh in so good for him. He might be planning to come in at 175 for the weigh in and put on more weight after the weigh in. My guess is if they weigh both boxers on fight night Canelo will weigh 185 and Kovalev will weigh 190. That's just a wild guess of course.
                I agree. Interesting how Alvarez can look so cut at 168 and still make 160.
                I bet he looks just as cut at 175.
                He's got a much different musculature than GGG, who is more of a natural MW.

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                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                  I've never seen a Kovalev fight night weight listed above 186, many were listed to speculated to be 184 or below. That's probably where Canelo will be at.

                  Duva said Kovalev was 181 in the Alvarez rematch and that basically thats why his stamina was better or something to that effect. Would match with what people have been saying that Kovalev got old, stamina went to ****, but they found a way to rezig the puzzle so that by sacrificing some of his power, which he had an oversupply of, he could get 12 round stamina back and still compete in 12 round world championship boxing.

                  But to do that, had to make him a little smaller, less strong, less powerful.

                  Could be true. Who knows. Then again maybe hes just as strong, but hes fighting stronger guys (Alvarez and Yarde), and maybe his stamina is just as bad, but like the Chilemba fight, he pushed through it.

                  Look at Kovalev's last three fights. One he got knocked out in the 7th, one he looked to be fading mid rounds but pushed through and boxed beautifully so he didnt quite come close to getting knocked out or anything but he did look vulnerable, and then a third he looked vulnerable and almost got knocked out again, but his opponent gassed and he survived.

                  So is it really a different Kovalev in any of those three fights, or is it just one of those, when you're fighting on thin ice like Kovalev does now with his stamina, if you fought 100 times, sometimes the ice breaks, sometimes it doesn't.

                  I hope Kovalev wins though. I hope Kovalev wins, passes the torch to Bivol, and it kickstarts a new golden age at 175, meanwhile Canelo goes down to 160, GGG turns back the clock, and we get a new golden age round robin at 160.

                  Preparing to be disappointed though. My favorite fighters never get fair fights and it's really frustrating. I guess it's a compliment to them that even when they're old and put at disadvantages, people still consider them top opponents, but it's frustrating.
                  I have a hard time believing Kovalev needs to come in at 181 rather than 185 to lose power but gain ,stamina. A well trained boxer can find a weight where both his power and stamina is 100%. No need to sacrifice strength and power to gain stamina when he can have both. I just don't believe carrying 4 pounds more weight will hurt his stamina in the least. If he feel good at 185 that is where he should fight. A weaker fighter at 181 will have less power and less stamina so I disagree with Duva who is just a promoter and not a boxer.

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                    Anyone with any idea if there is some sort of weight stipulations other than the usual weigh-in limit at 175lbs?

                    If there is a catchweight or rehydration clause, that will be a huge disadvantage to Kovalev who is 36 yrs old and a career 175lber.

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