Ortiz is the best heavyweight

**Curt Henning** · 09-15-2019, 04:41 AM

"if he avoids the right hand"

like, how many guys have been able to do that?

**MDPopescu** · 09-15-2019, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr

He would beat anyone out there and he�ll beat Wilder if he avoids the right hand this time.

He�s the best technical boxer in the division and if he wasn�t 50 years old he would be this generations dominant heavyweight.

He's a solid HW product from the Cuban school... and he chose to make a few bucks with uncle Al -- as nobody wanted to fight him beforehand...

**DaNeutral.** · 09-15-2019, 05:34 AM

Luis IVE BEATEN NOBODY GOOD Ortiz? Luis IVE NEVER WON A BELT Ortiz? Nahh hes not the best, he never was, it was only Wilder and his fans calling him the Boogeyman. Hes been a very good fighter but hes fooked now, hes an old man and Wilder wouldnt even let him take his old man tablets cuz it gave Wilder more advantages. Its the American way baby. Try to make sure its an unfair fight before the fight even starts.

**Kaspa9t9** · 09-15-2019, 05:35 AM

I reckon I could be the best HW in the world right now if I could avoid Wilder's right and left hands.

**LetOutTheCage** · 09-15-2019, 05:48 AM

The guy who went 7 rounds with Dave Allen and who couldn't get Malik Scott out there? Nah. Fury would embarrass him, Wilder will KO him again, Joshua would KO him. That's 3 people I would put above him straight away.

I would still fancy Oulev and Parker to beat him as well. Decent fighter but well past his best

**DaNeutral.** · 09-15-2019, 05:56 AM

Do you think team wilder will allow him his old man heart peds this time or are we just going to see a complete shell of a fighter again?

**CubanGuyNYC** · 09-15-2019, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Curt Henning

"if he avoids the right hand"

like, how many guys have been able to do that?

Haha So true.

**CubanGuyNYC** · 09-15-2019, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr

He would beat anyone out there and he�ll beat Wilder if he avoids the right hand this time.

He�s the best technical boxer in the division and if he wasn�t 50 years old he would be this generations dominant heavyweight.

Ortiz is/was a good, solid heavyweight, but I don�t think he was ever that good. Even in his prime he wouldn�t dominate. Although, considering how he looks at this stage, Luis probably would�ve held a belt and beaten a few good challengers.

**HeadBodyBodyBody** · 09-15-2019, 06:28 AM

I think we are going to see a demolition job in the Wilder rematch, I should not be surprised if Ortiz is out of there by the mid-rounds

Ortiz is the best heavyweight