Had boxing been better if PBC and Haymon never existed?

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  • rickJen
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    #1

    Had boxing been better if PBC and Haymon never existed?

    What do you think guys?
  • rolshans
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    #2
    There'd be less PPV fights, so sure. That's if another promoter didn't take their place in the PPV market.

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    • Ray*
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      #3
      If it’s isnt Haymon then there would be someone else. Am all for fighters getting paid. But he has gone from getting fighters a good payday to stopping them from getting one.

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      • THC
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        #4
        His venture increased the number of fights on TV and that's a good thing. And it seems his fighters are getting paid well; they like him for that.

        Conversely, getting paid well for showcase matchups makes it more difficult for compelling fights to be made since the athletes don't have to take difficult fights.

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        • MASTERBX
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          #5
          Without the PBC, We would be stuck watch Oscar sticking kitchen utensils up his rectum, DeadZone(Hearn) flops and Bob Arum play the race card!

          Oscar, DeadZone(Hean) and Bobby Arum Can NOT make NEW boxing stars!

          The PBC IS boxing IN America!

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          • STREET CLEANER
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            #6
            If it was not Haymon it would be someone else.

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            • Bullrider
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              #7
              Middleweight Charlo would not be rotting right now. Lara vs 2 Charlos would have happened long time ago. Lots of fights didn't happen because of the cancer.

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              • sicko
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                #8
                Honestly...If Haymon never started PBC, first of all HBO probably would've stayed in the boxing business! Secondly it would be no Top Rank/ESPN situation, remember PBC brought boxing back to ESPN. Also part of Haymon and Arum settlement was Haymon giving Arum the remaining bought time that he had for PBC on ESPN if I remember correctly

                Also not sure if DAZN would be investing into boxing like they are especially if HBO was still in the boxing business

                So PBC somewhat made Promoters step it up out of fear they would be left on the outside looking in. Hearn stepped it up after at first COMPLAINING about PBC overpaying Fighters. Now him and DAZN has taken Overpaying Fighters to another Level

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                • Phenom
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                  #9
                  PBC are the only one that put cards back on network tv

                  If it was no pbc HBO would still run boxing and ESPN probably wouldn't have invested in boxing imo

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                  • Phenom
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sicko
                    Honestly...If Haymon never started PBC, first of all HBO probably would've stayed in the boxing business! Secondly it would be no Top Rank/ESPN situation, remember PBC brought boxing back to ESPN. Also part of Haymon and Arum settlement was Haymon giving Arum the remaining bought time that he had for PBC on ESPN if I remember correctly

                    Also not sure if DAZN would be investing into boxing like they are especially if HBO was still in the boxing business

                    So PBC somewhat made Promoters step it up out of fear they would be left on the outside looking in. Hearn stepped it up after at first COMPLAINING about PBC overpaying Fighters. Now him and DAZN has taken Overpaying Fighters to another Level
                    Good post...

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