Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Kovalev, Golovkin, Spence-Lara

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as Pernell Whitaker vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., Gennady Golovkin vs. Canelo Alvarez, Erislandy Lara vs. Errol Spence, Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev, and more.
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[Robi13]

Bread should give everyone a breakdown of how a fight between Jrock vs ggg would go at 160... that’s why we would love to know

[Boxing Logic]

I feel Breadman's analysis is missing a key component in terms of GGG vs Canelo.

Yes he's correct, if GGG and Canelo each went at each other and threw two 5 punch combinations, 10 punches each total, Canelo might land 4, GGG only 3.

But in terms of wearing your opponent down, GGG can take 4 from Canelo better than Canelo can take 3 from GGG.

It's like Salido vs Loma. Salido went after Loma, does that mean Salido must have been better in exchanges and landing more shots? No of course not. But he knew he could take what Loma dished out, and he was trying to wear down Loma.

That's the other thing. At least if GGG isn't totally passed prime, he can throw more punches than Canelo.

So if GGG was smart, he would box Canelo from the outside the first 4 rounds, conserve energy, outpoint Canelo, slip in some body shots and damaging jabs here and there, maybe have it 2-2 after four rounds or even be down 3-1, wait for Canelo to gas in round 5, then go all out Salido/Maidana on Canelo, throw 80 punches per round to Canelo's 50, and even if Canelo lands at a higher percentage, GGG's numbers advantage, power advantage, and stamina advantage would lead to GGG being up 6-4 after 10 rounds, with Canelo being completely worn down and gassed, which would allow GGG to dominate the final two rounds and at worst, win 8-4 on the cards, but more likely, drop or stop Canelo in the final two rounds and really seal it, like he almost did in the rematch but failed to do because he hadn't pushed the pace enough on Canelo in the mid rounds like he should have.

Ducking GGG til he was old aside, Canelo really did so well because his trainer was better. If GGG had even Liam Smith's trainer to prepare him, it might not have been close. I watched that fight again and Smith had half the talent of GGG, but he was much better prepared at how to catch Canelo.

But even without that, just the Robert Garcia style. GGG with the Maidana vs Floyd style vs Canelo, after the 4th round when Canelo gasses a bit and loses some power off his punches, could still stop Canelo late even at this age.

[Boxing Logic]

Bread should give everyone a breakdown of how a fight between Jrock vs ggg would go at 160... that’s why we would love to know

GGG is so much slower than JRoc at this point. He was never as fast but the gap has widened with age. With that said I would pick GGG to wear JRoc down and possibly stop him. It would be somewhat like the Canelo fights but with GGG less worried about JRoc's power, and with JRoc less able to absorb the strength and power of GGG. JRoc would have success early though in spots like Canelo and Kell Brook, in my opinion.

[JimmyD729]

GGG is so much slower than JRoc at this point. He was never as fast but the gap has widened with age. With that said I would pick GGG to wear JRoc down and possibly stop him. It would be somewhat like the Canelo fights but with GGG less worried about JRoc's power, and with JRoc less able to absorb the strength and power of GGG. JRoc would have success early though in spots like Canelo and Kell Brook, in my opinion.

Sounds about right

[Robi13]

GGG is so much slower than JRoc at this point. He was never as fast but the gap has widened with age. With that said I would pick GGG to wear JRoc down and possibly stop him. It would be somewhat like the Canelo fights but with GGG less worried about JRoc's power, and with JRoc less able to absorb the strength and power of GGG. JRoc would have success early though in spots like Canelo and Kell Brook, in my opinion.

I can agree with you great analysis I just wanna hear it from bread because he likes to give detailed breakdowns, I think he’d say some sh.it like... I won’t give analysis on my fighters type sh.it

[alexjust]

I feel Breadman's analysis is missing a key component in terms of GGG vs Canelo.

Yes he's correct, if GGG and Canelo each went at each other and threw two 5 punch combinations, 10 punches each total, Canelo might land 4, GGG only 3.

But in terms of wearing your opponent down, GGG can take 4 from Canelo better than Canelo can take 3 from GGG.

It's like Salido vs Loma. Salido went after Loma, does that mean Salido must have been better in exchanges and landing more shots? No of course not. But he knew he could take what Loma dished out, and he was trying to wear down Loma.

That's the other thing. At least if GGG isn't totally passed prime, he can throw more punches than Canelo.

So if GGG was smart, he would box Canelo from the outside the first 4 rounds, conserve energy, outpoint Canelo, slip in some body shots and damaging jabs here and there, maybe have it 2-2 after four rounds or even be down 3-1, wait for Canelo to gas in round 5, then go all out Salido/Maidana on Canelo, throw 80 punches per round to Canelo's 50, and even if Canelo lands at a higher percentage, GGG's numbers advantage, power advantage, and stamina advantage would lead to GGG being up 6-4 after 10 rounds, with Canelo being completely worn down and gassed, which would allow GGG to dominate the final two rounds and at worst, win 8-4 on the cards, but more likely, drop or stop Canelo in the final two rounds and really seal it, like he almost did in the rematch but failed to do because he hadn't pushed the pace enough on Canelo in the mid rounds like he should have.

Ducking GGG til he was old aside, Canelo really did so well because his trainer was better. If GGG had even Liam Smith's trainer to prepare him, it might not have been close. I watched that fight again and Smith had half the talent of GGG, but he was much better prepared at how to catch Canelo.

But even without that, just the Robert Garcia style. GGG with the Maidana vs Floyd style vs Canelo, after the 4th round when Canelo gasses a bit and loses some power off his punches, could still stop Canelo late even at this age.

I like your analysis, but unless they fight in Kazakhstan with Kazakh judges and referee he won't outpoint 118-110. Even if he drops him 11 times. Neither he will KO him as Canelo has a good chin and won't be hit flush. Plus DLH will wait for GGG to become 40 before they fight. Sadly, their story is over, I wish there was a way for them to fight when they are both in their prime, but it is not meant to be.

[Shadoww702]

I feel Breadman's analysis is missing a key component in terms of GGG vs Canelo.

Yes he's correct, if GGG and Canelo each went at each other and threw two 5 punch combinations, 10 punches each total, Canelo might land 4, GGG only 3.

But in terms of wearing your opponent down, GGG can take 4 from Canelo better than Canelo can take 3 from GGG.

It's like Salido vs Loma. Salido went after Loma, does that mean Salido must have been better in exchanges and landing more shots? No of course not. But he knew he could take what Loma dished out, and he was trying to wear down Loma.

That's the other thing. At least if GGG isn't totally passed prime, he can throw more punches than Canelo.

So if GGG was smart, he would box Canelo from the outside the first 4 rounds, conserve energy, outpoint Canelo, slip in some body shots and damaging jabs here and there, maybe have it 2-2 after four rounds or even be down 3-1, wait for Canelo to gas in round 5, then go all out Salido/Maidana on Canelo, throw 80 punches per round to Canelo's 50, and even if Canelo lands at a higher percentage, GGG's numbers advantage, power advantage, and stamina advantage would lead to GGG being up 6-4 after 10 rounds, with Canelo being completely worn down and gassed, which would allow GGG to dominate the final two rounds and at worst, win 8-4 on the cards, but more likely, drop or stop Canelo in the final two rounds and really seal it, like he almost did in the rematch but failed to do because he hadn't pushed the pace enough on Canelo in the mid rounds like he should have.

Ducking GGG til he was old aside, Canelo really did so well because his trainer was better. If GGG had even Liam Smith's trainer to prepare him, it might not have been close. I watched that fight again and Smith had half the talent of GGG, but he was much better prepared at how to catch Canelo.

But even without that, just the Robert Garcia style. GGG with the Maidana vs Floyd style vs Canelo, after the 4th round when Canelo gasses a bit and loses some power off his punches, could still stop Canelo late even at this age.

You sound a dumb as the clown who gave ggg 9 rounds. I’m sure you gave ggg 13 rounds

[Shadoww702]

GGG is so much slower than JRoc at this point. He was never as fast but the gap has widened with age. With that said I would pick GGG to wear JRoc down and possibly stop him. It would be somewhat like the Canelo fights but with GGG less worried about JRoc's power, and with JRoc less able to absorb the strength and power of GGG. JRoc would have success early though in spots like Canelo and Kell Brook, in my opinion.

You SUK at picking winners.... Anyone who picks against you wins. Biatch I got $5k on Canelo in the 3rd fight. I’ll grab your p@ssy and wallet at the same time WHEN I win not if. Punk! Step up Mr. Mouth

[Shadoww702]

I like your analysis, but unless they fight in Kazakhstan with Kazakh judges and referee he won't outpoint 118-110. Even if he drops him 11 times. Neither he will KO him as Canelo has a good chin and won't be hit flush. Plus DLH will wait for GGG to become 40 before they fight. Sadly, their story is over, I wish there was a way for them to fight when they are both in their prime, but it is not meant to be.

Fkn ****** he couldn’t even drop Canelo ONCE! One KD wins that fight. *** your an emotional b$tch! Canelo won get over it. Punk GGG OWN trainer said the judges did a GOOD job. You punk Borat RAN from the ring CRYING like a B$tch! Who does that sht? He Broner’d out PUNK! ****** I got betting slips on ggg go collect!