Loma shakes head at Pacquiao fight talk

[Spoon23]

Robbie is known as the single worst poster on NSB, and is likely on more ignore lists than anyone else.

I know he is on mine. He's worse than a fool. He's a shitty human being.

Loma doesn't need to follow in anyone else's footsteps to achieve greatness, and he sure doesn't need to fight at higher weights.

I don't know where some boxing fans got the idea that you need to move up in a whole heap of weights in order to achieve greatness. I don't agree with that idea at all. How many divisions that people compete in is irrelevant to their boxing greatness - and it is more a factor of how old they were when they began than anything else.

Personally I prefer to see competitions of skill versus skill - not skill versus size.

I believe that Loma will go down as one of the ATGs. He won't need to step above 135 to do that.

To be a true great you have to go above 135. That's just how the boxing world works. 147 is where the casuals and the not so hardcore fans notices a great fighter. @135 are only for the hardcore fans. No money and less fame is found there. It's north of 135 were the fame and money is. It's just is. Not saying loma ain't great. I'm just saying to be greater than great. That's where the action is.

That said,

I didn't say I agree with everything Robbie says. All am saying I agree with what he said in the post I quoted him. That's all. We are on the same page on his post that's it. So rather than I be the one explaining it to you. I just let his words explain it to you. But I can see you can't see past that. So that's that.

But here it is again. I agree with every word he said here.

If Loma truly felt he'd win he'd be all over that fight. That fight would do more for his career than any other. He doesn't like his chances, any other excuse is BS. The excuse saying Loma won't get any credit is especially laughable, he doesn't get any credit fighting the guys he is now, Pacquiao would give him fortune and fame.

[Lomasexual]

To be a true great you have to go above 135. That's just how the boxing world works. 147 is where the casuals and the not so hardcore fans notices a great fighter. @135 are only for the hardcore fans. No money and less fame is found there. It's north of 135 were the fame and money is. It's just is. Not saying loma ain't great. I'm just saying to be greater than great. That's where the action is.

If he wanted the kind of superstar status and fame of Pac, then sure, moving up might help him get that.

Boxing has always had marquee divisions. Fighters at Light Heavy and Cruiser know that the Heavyweight division is the one where all the money and fame is.

Personally, I'm happy with Loma being the kind of great that hardcore fans appreciate.

I'd actually be disappointed if he made moves or took fights just because they were popular with a broader (and less dedicated) audience.

He has his plan. Unify 135, then move down and unify 130. I have no complaints about that. It might not make hm a billionaire, or a household name - but hardcore boxing fans will respect it, and that is awesome.

[Blond Beast]

This is what’s sometimes frustrating with being a fan of Loma. He does not take challenges that could lead to greatness. He’s like Golovkin almost, being comfortable where he is and waiting for people to come to him. Sometimes you have to grab life by the balls.

Course he also remembers being punched in the balls by Salido. He understands a bridge too far. Promoters make more with their stars avoiding risk until they have to. I think he’s good enough to beat top guys moving up. But is that risk worth the reward? The people who pay the fighters aren’t concerned about the fighters legacy.

[KillaMane26]

This fight not gonna happened unless its tainted( Manny Drained)
I could see if Manny took a tune up at 140 or lower to see how his body react he isnt young!

I don't understand why yall care. Its just talk.

[Thraxox]

]To be a true great you have to go above 135. That's just how the boxing world works. 147 is where the casuals and the not so hardcore fans notices a great fighter. @135 are only for the hardcore fans.[/B] No money and less fame is found there. It's north of 135 were the fame and money is. It's just is. Not saying loma ain't great. I'm just saying to be greater than great. That's where the action is.

That said,

I didn't say I agree with everything Robbie says. All am saying I agree with what he said in the post I quoted him. That's all. We are on the same page on his post that's it. So rather than I be the one explaining it to you. I just let his words explain it to you. But I can see you can't see past that. So that's that.

But here it is again. I agree with every word he said here.

WTF are you talking about. Lomachenko would still be an ATG regardless if he fights Pacquiao or not. If he becomes undisputed at 135 or at 130 he'll be an ATG.

Where is this ****** talk coming from.

[deanrw]

Not entirely true. You can just take one fight and go back to your plans of being undisputed especially if there is a shyit load of money to be made. It's Pro boxing. It's prize fighting. No better prize than fighting Pac @ 138. But as you can see.. he rather duck it.

You are in pro Boxing to make good money to feed your family. That's what prize fighting is about. It's about big fights that makes a fighter earn real Money. Sorry your excuse doesn't fly.

It isn't an excuse. He just isn't interested as he said it himself. He has his plans and he prefers to stick to them.

[The Problem]

If he gets that WW belt off Pac of course it would be legacy defining. 145 lbs catch weight, come on take a chance loma

[TonyGe]

dont be surprised
PAC is the 8 division world champ, one and only

At age 40 to drop 12 pounds and keep his stamina is very unlikely. I'm no trainer but to me it seems foolish. It's possible I guess. I never thought he would be competitive with Thurman never mind beat him. LOL.

[Real King Kong]

Of Spoons 19,000 posts, I would guess 18,980 are about Pacquiao.

...or Floyd mayweather.

[HandsofIron]

Look mayne, the only way this fight gets made is if Pac goes back down to 135. And at 41, I highly doubt Pac can do that after fighting at welterweight for so long. It'll look like the Pac-DLH, passing of the torch fight.