Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: I Don't Want 15 Minutes Of Fame; Want It To Last!

[factsarenice]

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The man who murdered Matchroom

[PunchyPotorff]

I'd be really surprised if Ruiz keeps the belts. Joshua has a good habit of learning from each fight experience. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take on a last minute replacement, especially with an important high profile fight like this one was a few months back. He had trouble with Takam the last time he did a last minute replacement. Maybe he'll wake up from the experience now. This will be a tough, technical fight... with both fighters showing some solid moves. In the end though, IMO Joshua takes back the titles. A good solid fight for the fans no matter the outcome, pretty much guaranteed.

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If Andy loses I suspect he'll end up being avoided. Wilder is very, very risk averse and the next level down don't really need or want the risk for the little $$$ Andy can bring without belts. Andy may get a cross fight with Fury or a new guy comming up but other than that, nobody will want to actually fight Andy. The pieces don't come together in today's risk averse climate.

Very well said and so true! I wouldn't single out Wilder though, everyone that has a belt or is close to getting title shot seem very risk averse. It's the sad thing about the pro boxing business model. People risk their lives for very little money and have to max out the $$ ASAP while getting fleeced by promoters.

With social media and 24/7 news cycles boxers need to find a way to promote themselves. We're back to the days when Don king fighters would only fight others with the same promoter. Soon we'll have Haymon, DAZN, Arum , GBP champs etc. on top of having sanctioning body champs and network champs.

[OldTerry]

I'd be really surprised if Ruiz keeps the belts. Joshua has a good habit of learning from each fight experience. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take on a last minute replacement, especially with an important high profile fight like this one was a few months back. He had trouble with Takam the last time he did a last minute replacement. Maybe he'll wake up from the experience now. This will be a tough, technical fight... with both fighters showing some solid moves. In the end though, IMO Joshua takes back the titles. A good solid fight for the fans no matter the outcome, pretty much guaranteed.

I don't believe Joshua beats Ruiz in a technical fight. Ruiz is the superior technician. Ruiz also takes a big punch very well and is not afraid to rumble with AJ. Ruiz has never been stopped in a fight but Joshua has (by Ruiz) so I see Joshua being a timid fighter in their rematch and that shouldn't win him the fight either.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I'd be really surprised if Ruiz keeps the belts. Joshua has a good habit of learning from each fight experience. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take on a last minute replacement, especially with an important high profile fight like this one was a few months back. He had trouble with Takam the last time he did a last minute replacement. Maybe he'll wake up from the experience now. This will be a tough, technical fight... with both fighters showing some solid moves. In the end though, IMO Joshua takes back the titles. A good solid fight for the fans no matter the outcome, pretty much guaranteed.

I agree. I think Joshua takes the rematch in a very solid contest. Ruiz shocked a lot of people with his upset the first time, but he didn’t shock me. I had seen the “fat kid” fight, and knew he was no slouch. But I do believe AJ will overcome this time around. We might be looking at a trilogy, which would be nice for everyone.

[PunchyPotorff]

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I'd be really surprised if Ruiz keeps the belts. Joshua has a good habit of learning from each fight experience. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take on a last minute replacement, especially with an important high profile fight like this one was a few months back. He had trouble with Takam the last time he did a last minute replacement. Maybe he'll wake up from the experience now. This will be a tough, technical fight... with both fighters showing some solid moves. In the end though, IMO Joshua takes back the titles. A good solid fight for the fans no matter the outcome, pretty much guaranteed.

I agree. I think Joshua takes the rematch in a very solid contest. Ruiz shocked a lot of people with his upset the first time, but he didn’t shock me. I had seen the “fat kid” fight, and knew he was no slouch. But I do believe AJ will overcome this time around. We might be looking at a trilogy, which would be nice for everyone.

Exactly. You make some good points. And yes, a trilogy would be interesting.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
I'd be really surprised if Ruiz keeps the belts. Joshua has a good habit of learning from each fight experience. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take on a last minute replacement, especially with an important high profile fight like this one was a few months back. He had trouble with Takam the last time he did a last minute replacement. Maybe he'll wake up from the experience now. This will be a tough, technical fight... with both fighters showing some solid moves. In the end though, IMO Joshua takes back the titles. A good solid fight for the fans no matter the outcome, pretty much guaranteed.

I don't believe Joshua beats Ruiz in a technical fight. Ruiz is the superior technician. Ruiz also takes a big punch very well and is not afraid to rumble with AJ. Ruiz has never been stopped in a fight but Joshua has (by Ruiz) so I see Joshua being a timid fighter in their rematch and that shouldn't win him the fight either.

That could happen, but I don't think it will. Joshua won't be timid. He'll be more careful, with controlled aggression, but IMO timid won't be entering into it. And it doesn't matter how good a fighter takes a punch, it takes very few solid HW punches to change all that. Which could work for or against either fighter.

[MastaBlasta]

I agree. I think Joshua takes the rematch in a very solid contest. Ruiz shocked a lot of people with his upset the first time, but he didn’t shock me. I had seen the “fat kid” fight, and knew he was no slouch. But I do believe AJ will overcome this time around. We might be looking at a trilogy, which would be nice for everyone.

Nah! You're being pragmatic and taking the favored guy (based on nothing from their previous fight, when he was a 20-1 fav). Punchy is just dreaming his preference. Both of you will be wrong, unless hearn manages to pull off some PED-cheat, ref-questionable/screw-up type scenarios.

In a fair, no preference given (referee) fight, Ruiz will stop AJ most times. Don't get me wrong, AJ is still a big puncher ... he can possibly catch Ruiz and get him in trouble, and maybe find a way. But Ruiz THRIVES in wars. In most cases, he is too skillful and too able to mix boxing and ****ing, while also having a much better MOTOR than AJ (this would be where PEDS might even the fight ... giving AJ more endurance and ability to sustain heavy action). Also, Ruiz takes punches better than most and (typical Mexican) likes to mix it up. He will take all kinds of chances (that give advantages) because he is never afraid to be hit.

AJ though, does not like mixing it up where he gets hit. He shuts down (much like Klitschko). Without a "very fortunate punch" or some help with his ability to wage war, AJ will lose. I don't believe he can wage war with Ruiz for 12 rounds and win. He will be demolished again. Styles make fights ... Ruiz's style and strengths are gonna prove wrong for a lot of people.

But perhaps not for everyone. It will be interesting to see if AJ can adapt, and if his adaptations are able to give him what he needs to survive.

[Curtis Harper]

Andy Ruiz: I Don't Want 15 Minutes Of Fame; Want It To Last!

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[CubanGuyNYC]

Nah! You're being pragmatic and taking the favored guy (based on nothing from their previous fight, when he was a 20-1 fav). Punchy is just dreaming his preference. Both of you will be wrong, unless hearn manages to pull off some PED-cheat, ref-questionable/screw-up type scenarios.

In a fair, no preference given (referee) fight, Ruiz will stop AJ most times. Don't get me wrong, AJ is still a big puncher ... he can possibly catch Ruiz and get him in trouble, and maybe find a way. But Ruiz THRIVES in wars. In most cases, he is too skillful and too able to mix boxing and ****ing, while also having a much better MOTOR than AJ (this would be where PEDS might even the fight ... giving AJ more endurance and ability to sustain heavy action). Also, Ruiz takes punches better than most and (typical Mexican) likes to mix it up. He will take all kinds of chances (that give advantages) because he is never afraid to be hit.

AJ though, does not like mixing it up where he gets hit. He shuts down (much like Klitschko). Without a "very fortunate punch" or some help with his ability to wage war, AJ will lose. I don't believe he can wage war with Ruiz for 12 rounds and win. He will be demolished again. Styles make fights ... Ruiz's style and strengths are gonna prove wrong for a lot of people.

But perhaps not for everyone. It will be interesting to see if AJ can adapt, and if his adaptations are able to give him what he needs to survive.

Maybe you’re right. As I said earlier, I knew prior to the first fight that Ruiz is no slouch. But I also gave Joshua the edge. And despite what happened, I still give AJ the nod. I’m not gonna debate the point very much, because, like the first time around, I don’t see this as a clear-cut fight. But I don’t think there’s any argument that, if Joshua does win, there will be a trilogy.