Did the Cruiserweight Division Give a Boost to the Behemoth HW Champs?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Tony Trick-Pony
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2014
    • 16950
    • 1,408
    • 3,121
    • 139,355

    #1

    Did the Cruiserweight Division Give a Boost to the Behemoth HW Champs?

    It seems strange to me that only a few heavyweight champions were very tall before the cruisers were implemented. You had I think Foreman and Carnera, neither of whom reigned very long? Then the cruisers come along and the taller dudes started getting further. I mean, Breidis showed that a cruiser can knock a heavyweight the F out in his fight with Char. Some guys have their best weight between 180-195. They can't do that and compete in the division. It's just a theory but I think it could explain a lot. What do you guys think?
  • Tony Trick-Pony
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2014
    • 16950
    • 1,408
    • 3,121
    • 139,355

    #2
    Don Turner even thinks that Marciano would have destroyed the Klitschkos but of course, Rocky fought at around 185- his best weight. He wouldn't be allowed to do that today but should he? I think so...

    [IMG][/IMG]

    Comment

    • YoungManRumble
      Paper Champion
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Aug 2019
      • 9843
      • 2,129
      • 975
      • 33,413

      #3
      Do you have to be over 200 to compete in HW? Wasn't RJJ like 195 in his John Ruiz fight or am I remembering wrong and or special circumstances?

      Comment

      • Tony Trick-Pony
        Banned
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Feb 2014
        • 16950
        • 1,408
        • 3,121
        • 139,355

        #4
        Originally posted by dot.c.eh
        Do you have to be over 200 to compete in HW? Wasn't RJJ like 195 in his John Ruiz fight or am I remembering wrong and or special circumstances?
        I'm not sure. Could have been and that was quite a while back, maybe before they made the limit 200?

        I don't think you can fight at heavy unless you're over 200. Not absolutely sure, though.

        Comment

        • YoungManRumble
          Paper Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Aug 2019
          • 9843
          • 2,129
          • 975
          • 33,413

          #5
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          I'm not sure. Could have been and that was quite a while back, maybe before they made the limit 200?

          I don't think you can fight at heavy unless you're over 200. Not absolutely sure, though.
          I could have looked it up first, but it feels more like a genuine conversation speaking on what I already have in my head. He weighed in at 193, and was 199 on fight night. I'm still not sure if it was something previously negotiated though since it was a big weight jump.

          Comment

          • Tony Trick-Pony
            Banned
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Feb 2014
            • 16950
            • 1,408
            • 3,121
            • 139,355

            #6
            Originally posted by dot.c.eh
            I could have looked it up first, but it feels more like a genuine conversation speaking on what I already have in my head. He weighed in at 193, and was 199 on fight night. I'm still not sure if it was something previously negotiated though since it was a big weight jump.
            And his win over Ruiz did show how a smaller guy can beat a much bigger man. Makes you think...

            Comment

            • BLASTER1
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Dec 2017
              • 9068
              • 608
              • 1,290
              • 335,405

              #7
              Maybe these cruisers need to do the opposite of weight draining and do weight gaining.
              Then drop it off to your best fighting weight.
              I do think guys need to be at least 210 to fight at Heavyweight now.

              Comment

              • Damn Wicked
                Sexy Mutha Fvkka
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Oct 2015
                • 7064
                • 1,218
                • 7,793
                • 46,960

                #8
                Originally posted by dot.c.eh
                Do you have to be over 200 to compete in HW? Wasn't RJJ like 195 in his John Ruiz fight or am I remembering wrong and or special circumstances?
                Roy Jones was 200 lbs for that fight.

                Comment

                • andocom
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 1115
                  • 145
                  • 64
                  • 20,088

                  #9
                  I thought there was a minimum that you couldn't be under in amateurs but in pro fights there is no minimum only a max?

                  Comment

                  • YoungManRumble
                    Paper Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 9843
                    • 2,129
                    • 975
                    • 33,413

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Damn Wicked
                    Roy Jones was 200 lbs for that fight.
                    Not according to HBO and the LA Times



                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP