Comments Thread For: Arum: Loma-Stevenson Is More Competitive Than Loma-Haney!

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  • kushking
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    #11
    If Loma faced guys like Mikey,Berchelt,Tank,Haney,Commey & kod them all them,then & only then would it be justified to say all the cringey bs that gets said regularly about Loma. I am 100% aware that it hasn't been his own fault those fights haven't been made,but the same can be said about Mall Charlo,Andrade & several others,they too can say its not entirely their own fault their resumes stink or that they're getting old & haven't fought more than 2 decent worthy opponents near their level.

    Bottom line is that I am not saying Loma deserves redicule or anything,but merely that hes unbelievably overhyped,overrated based on past fights,& his belts have mostly been against the same level opponents as many other fighters whom aren't nearly so highly regarded let alone hyped as an atg from early on in his career like lomas been undeservingly hyped from his 4th fight.

    I was among the only posters saying Loma wouldn't ko Campbell & that loma will be in dogfights with anyone semi elite @ 135 & up,& against the best at 130 as well.
    I was told by countless ppl that Campbell would be easy work & he was 20-1 dog,yet just as vs Chinares loma looked average several times throughout the fight vs an opponent whom himself was already saying he didn't stand a chance the minute he was talking as he was to media before the fight.

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    • Scopedog
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      #12
      I rate Shakur quite highly, but he’s still a ways off from being a worthy challenger to Loma. Haney is as well to be fair.

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      • doom_specialist
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        And this is why promotors are known to be full of s***. If Haney was a top rank fighter, arums entire tone would be different. Remember when arum said Floyd was the best he's seen since Ali? Then after Floyd left his option of him as a fighter soured and now Loma is the best since Ali according to arum.
        This is the guy who said "yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth" lol

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        • Realizniguhnit
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          #14
          I really don't know why people are so high on Stevenson. He hasn't proven anything on a professional level and got whooped in his last Amateur fight.

          He basically been going through the motions fighting guy's that are naturally smaller than him. When he finally moves up we'll see what he's made of. I personally think he gets KTFO at the elite level. I could be wrong but something tells me he doesn't have a good chin.

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          • R-Hand Southpaw
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            #15
            Originally posted by kushking
            If Loma faced guys like Mikey,Berchelt,Tank,Haney,Commey & kod them all them,then & only then would it be justified to say all the cringey bs that gets said regularly about Loma. I am 100% aware that it hasn't been his own fault those fights haven't been made,but the same can be said about Mall Charlo,Andrade & several others,they too can say its not entirely their own fault their resumes stink or that they're getting old & haven't fought more than 2 decent worthy opponents near their level.

            Bottom line is that I am not saying Loma deserves redicule or anything,but merely that hes unbelievably overhyped,overrated based on past fights,& his belts have mostly been against the same level opponents as many other fighters whom aren't nearly so highly regarded let alone hyped as an atg from early on in his career like lomas been undeservingly hyped from his 4th fight.

            I was among the only posters saying Loma wouldn't ko Campbell & that loma will be in dogfights with anyone semi elite @ 135 & up,& against the best at 130 as well.
            I was told by countless ppl that Campbell would be easy work & he was 20-1 dog,yet just as vs Chinares loma looked average several times throughout the fight vs an opponent whom himself was already saying he didn't stand a chance the minute he was talking as he was to media before the fight.
            I read a ton of your garbage ass opinions and Lomachenko did easy work on Campbell. Lomachenko was never in any serious danger and won deservingly huge on the score cards. A W by KO or by UD is still a W.

            Was it competitive? Yes. But winning, 9-3 on my score card and wider on the judges is no indication the fight was close.

            That's a far cry from someone like Canelo who guys like you WHOOPED GGG but only won on a MD winning by 1 round.

            Campbell was only able to keep the fight competitive because of his natural size. Campbell is listed as 5'9 but is clearly taller with a supposed reach of 71 which is also probably a lie. 71 gives him 5.5 inches if reach over Lomachenko which is why he "looked average" in your garbage opinion. Hard to get in and land punches when the other guy can hit you clean before you can even land.

            This is a problem someone like Floyd never had because he was actually genetically gifted with that 72 inch reach. Compare that to Lomachenkos 65.5 reach.

            And then let me ask. What's up with you wns KO obsession? How many KOs did floyd get 130 and up?

            You say oh loma shouldnt be ridiculed but you're legit one of the biggest haters here.

            Saying **** like oh, if these fighters, btw who wanted none of loma, hypothetically fought him he would win blah blah blah based on nothing but the ****ing color of their skin.

            Quit lying.

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            • boxingitis
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              #16
              Imagine if Loma could fight Teofimo, Mikey, Berchelt, Tank, Tevin Farmer, and Valdez. All possible fights but we know it ain’t going to happen. At least the top rank should give it try.

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              • jackblack008
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                #17
                Back to 130 would stink. Why not go to 140 and face Cano..?

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                • hitmanjosh
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                  #18
                  Bob is a salesperson but full of it!

                  Shaker hasn’t beaten anyone not a Gary Russell no body don’t even go there. Haney is a real fight for any dam body and so is Gervonta so make it happen Bob, I can’t do that Arum.

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                  • angkag
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jackblack008
                    Back to 130 would stink. Why not go to 140 and face Cano..?
                    Because he's small for 135 and alteady fighting a weight class or two above his natural weight ?

                    May as well just say why doesn't he fight Canelo at 160 to setlle who the P4P 1 is.

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                    • REdrUm0351
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                      #20
                      Loma is a world class fighter but is he Pac level? Not really. He is a great amatuer but probably spent too much time there and came to professional boxing kind of late which will put a damper on any type of legacy he could of had. If he unifies the division and beats Tank,Valdez, Berchelt,
                      with guys like Commey, Farmer, thrown in and rising prospects like Stevenson and Haney he could finish his career with a amazing resume. He would definitely need to move to down in weight as 135 face it is too big for him. At 130 and being a star ( which will help make the big fights unlike his first run at 130) he could extend his career and get more career defining wins which he needs.

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