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Barry Hearn: Lomachenko is very good but he's nothing special and not an ATG

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  • #41
    Originally posted by OCPancho View Post
    And I'm not too sure I'd pick Sanchez, Floyd, Saddler, Pepp or Arguello over him.
    Or JCC or Floyd at 130 over him.
    See, that's the type of talk that is unwarranted. Salido beat him but you wouldn't pick Salvador Sanchez or JCC over him?

    Come on, man.

    The guy is good but as of yet has not accomplished anywhere near enough to be put on that type of pedestal over those fighters.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      See, that's the type of talk that is unwarranted. Salido beat him but you wouldn't pick Salvador Sanchez or JCC over him?

      Come on, man.

      The guy is good but as of yet has not accomplished anywhere near enough to be put on that type of pedestal over those fighters.
      And Sal lost fighting for the mexican bantam title .
      And has a gift draw against the lefty, Juan Escobar at the Olympic. Down and barely survived the 5th round.
      Ruben Castillo gave him hell and many thought Ruben won.
      And Sal was in a death match against Azumah. Azumah was a noob and had 4 weeks' notice.
      I'm not too sure Sal beats Azumah in the rematch .


      Salido ? The one who showed over the limit and was dirty as fkk ? Loma's SECOND fight . Keep digging.

      JCC at 130 fought a ton of bums. Rocky Lockridge gave him hell. Loma is a lot faster than Rocky and a lot more unconventional.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        It's not an NSB thing.

        This is Barry Hearn saying it.
        And?

        So now Barry fcking Hearn the Hearn's dinasty godfather became gospel to Shoulderroll nationalistic biggot US arse?

        Man, that's something new, he surely had to sht on Loma to please your that much

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        • #44
          Originally posted by BangEM View Post
          Stop spamming the overrated boring gypsy bum everywhere. Just because he looked good against a bummy one-trick pony like Wilder, that's doesn't even make him decent.

          The only heavyweight to ever make p4p is AJ.
          So it does make Andy Ruiz P4P king right?

          Over Loma I guess...

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            See, that's the type of talk that is unwarranted. Salido beat him but you wouldn't pick Salvador Sanchez or JCC over him?

            Come on, man.

            The guy is good but as of yet has not accomplished anywhere near enough to be put on that type of pedestal over those fighters.
            Salido didn't beat a prime Loma. Unless we take for granted that Loma was in his prime for his second pro fight wich would be ridiculous...

            Be fair and honnest for once, if you can...you sound like a moron.

            I wish we could have real talk with you but your bias waste your intelligence...

            Trevor Berbick beat Ali and I still rank Ali as the HW goat.

            Your points are dumb and weak.

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            • #46
              I think you can only really say a guy is "ATG" either after he's retired or at least until he's pretty close to retirement after a long and great career - Pacquiao is one, for instance. Because Loma still likely has a few years to go, with several more big fights against top fighters in and around his current division looking likely in the near future, it's probably too soon to say that yet. That said, to say that Loma is "nothing special" just makes it look like you're ******. Both his professional record and the "eye test" both paint a picture of a fighter who goes above and beyond what's normal for even the sport's current elite. Any pound for pound list that doesn't have him in one of the top two spots just isn't credible if you ask me. Personally, I think he's the clear number 1.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                So it does make Andy Ruiz P4P king right?

                Over Loma I guess...
                Ruiz doesn't belong on no P4p list with that shi..tty resume. He won one flukey crap and he's getting knocked out in Dec.

                Also, AJ wasn't a P4p king - be only made the list at number 7/8 or so.

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                • #48
                  If if if if if if if if if

                  If my aunt had a **** she'd be my uncle.


                  Stop hating on the guy. He's an amazing talent fighting in a weight class where he's considerably smaller than every opponent he faces.

                  Guys like Tank and GGG get hyped up for fighting guys you've never heard of and people criticize guys like Usyk and Loma for clearing out whole divisions and fighting top 5 guys every time out.

                  Boxing fans are ******ed

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Scopedog View Post
                    I think you can only really say a guy is "ATG" either after he's retired or at least until he's pretty close to retirement after a long and great career - Pacquiao is one, for instance. Because Loma still likely has a few years to go, with several more big fights against top fighters in and around his current division looking likely in the near future, it's probably too soon to say that yet. That said, to say that Loma is "nothing special" just makes it look like you're ******. Both his professional record and the "eye test" both paint a picture of a fighter who goes above and beyond what's normal for even the sport's current elite. Any pound for pound list that doesn't have him in one of the top two spots just isn't credible if you ask me. Personally, I think he's the clear number 1.
                    Exactly, how can you call someone an ATG when they're ahout 15 fights into a career lol.

                    People love jumping the gun and anointing someone the next superstar before they've even faced anyone of note.

                    Loma is obviously a special fighter but he hasn't had his signature fight yet. He needs a Tank Davis or Mikey Garcia to really show how special he is IMO.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                      Exactly, how can you call someone an ATG when they're ahout 15 fights into a career lol.

                      People love jumping the gun and anointing someone the next superstar before they've even faced anyone of note.

                      Loma is obviously a special fighter but he hasn't had his signature fight yet. He needs a Tank Davis or Mikey Garcia to really show how special he is IMO.
                      Name another fighter, who had 13 title fights after 15 total fights. For the real recognizable titles. Then say that Loma isn't superstar.

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