Comments Thread For: Golovkin Is '100-Percent Open' To Fighting Murata In Japan

[Boxing_1013]

My man jj, the purveyor of unnecessary hate. No conversation, no thoughts just a consistent shower of simple hate.

Right...just straight hate all the time lol..sad really

[Ake-Dawg]

Lol...man all I can say is if GGG fought the other guy's fight, and they fought his...I would score it the exact same way but in reverse...you would have GGG losing all 3 fights 10-2 in that case lol...I just don't think you, or many others, keep it real there.

If you are really trying to act like those fights didn't have a clear winner, well that's fine, that's your opinion man lol...if that's what you really saw, and not what you wanted to see, then I would disagree with you but give ya a thumbs up.

I don't need to listen to anyone...I put the fight on mute and I score it...why do you take your cues from other men?

You sound like you are trying to convince yourself of this stuff rather than me man lol...I watched those fights just like I've watched 1000 other ones...and just like 95% of those, they weren't that hard to score, and they all had a clear winner...if people want to give bonus points to guys because they are the cash cow or did better than expected, hey that's cool, do you.

GGG outlanded Danny and Nelo in 80% of the rounds they fought...but you say he should have lost all of them...yawn...you're not objective man and on this issue at least I don't really value what you say at all.

Hope you have a great day though buddy!

You do know that boxing industry folks give their take on fights all the time right? RJJ didn't think GGG won clean. Sanchez his trainer didn't think he won clean. These are folks who feel he should have won both fights but acknowledged he didn't win clean and could see the end result being justified. Yet here you are commenting as if someone who holds that opinion must be a hater or just out to lunch. Maybe you're the one who isn't objective since you can't see how GGG could viewed in a lesser light than you see him in.

[Boxing_1013]

You do know that boxing industry folks give their take on fights all the time right? RJJ didn't think GGG won clean. Sanchez his trainer didn't think he won clean. These are folks who feel he should have won both fights but acknowledged he didn't win clean and could see the end result being justified. Yet here you are commenting as if someone who holds that opinion must be a hater or just out to lunch. Maybe you're the one who isn't objective since you can't see how GGG could viewed in a lesser light than you see him in.

I did say I think it is fair to say he didn't perform up to some expectations...but yeah 19/20 fights that I watch...I think have one clear winner...and those 3 fights are in that boat...reasonable people can differ, but imo most of those who shade those fights to G's opponents, seem to have ulterior motives and are scoring perhaps what they want to see, rather than what happened.

If I saw him get beat I would gladly score it against him...if a man wins a fight he deserves the credit...doesn't affect me one bit...I certainly scored quite a few rounds against GGG in those fights so it's not like I see no fault with him ever...he imo is just very tough to beat/win clear rounds off of...he is too active and always scoring good shots, usually with his jab

But from I am gathering I think you are saying we need to see GGG-Canelo 3 to clear the air?? I like it!!

[j.razor]

lol...as I've said in other threads...when greats fight each other, they are usually 50/50...when greats fight other good fighters, they usually go 8 or 9 out of 10...just look at the resumes if you don't believe...G is like 15-0 in those fights with no controversy...I think that stacks up very well to past greats.

No one really did to most of those opponents what G did...Ishida a good example...went 12 rounds with Pirog and Paul Williams just before his GGG fight...GGG rolls over him in 3...that by itself is not going to put a guy in the HOF...but when you have a lot of stories like that it is impressive imo.

And also as mentioned prior...GGG outlanded Danny 9-2-1...Canelo 10-1-1...and then 8-3-1...if people really want to try and say he didn't win all 3 of those fights it is just a big stretch imo...and kind of illustrates that the people who hate on him a lot don't really keep it real with their criticisms of him.

I do think it is fair to say that relative to expectations...G 'lost' those fights...he was expected to KO Danny, but no one thought Danny's chin would hold up, and it has been holding up somehow...if Danny's chin were to hold up I would expect an 8-4 type win for GGG with a KD which is what I saw.

Nelo (1st fight) and Danny both just came to survive and go 12 rounds imo...so it would be harder to score a KO that way anyway...but one could argue that if GGG was as great as advertised he should have scored at least 1 KO there...and then in fight 2 for Canelo to hold the center of the ring with GGG, well we hadn't seen that before and was impressive for Nelo.

I think it is fair to slight GGG for maybe not looking at good as advertised and dominating more...but to say he didn't win those 3 fights clean...I mean yeah I just don't really get that lol...and again when people are incapable of giving him credit there, it just makes valid criticisms of him fall flat.

He's like Trump lol..people go so overboard with the hate on him that it ends up making some people support him even more.

He lost to Jacobs & Nelo, all 3 fights & won't dare fight Mall or Boo Boo cuz he, his team & his fans know what time it is.

[Ake-Dawg]

I did say I think it is fair to say he didn't perform up to some expectations...but yeah 19/20 fights that I watch...I think have one clear winner...and those 3 fights are in that boat...reasonable people can differ, but imo most of those who shade those fights to G's opponents, seem to have ulterior motives and are scoring perhaps what they want to see, rather than what happened.

If I saw him get beat I would gladly score it against him...if a man wins a fight he deserves the credit...doesn't affect me one bit...I certainly scored quite a few rounds against GGG in those fights so it's not like I see no fault with him ever...he imo is just very tough to beat/win clear rounds off of...he is too active and always scoring good shots, usually with his jab

But from I am gathering I think you are saying we need to see GGG-Canelo 3 to clear the air?? I like it!!

Nah...what I'm saying is just because you believe he won cleanly, doesn't mean he won cleanly. It's kinda one of those things where once you acknowledge the validity of contrasting opinions, you understand why it's okay to say you felt a guy won, but recognize it wasn't clean because of how the validity of the contrasting opinion.

I'm also saying that I don't want to see rounds 25-36. If it was a slugfest, sure I would, but one guy boxed and backed up...the other guy stalked...making it an uneventful if not competitive fight.

[Boxing_1013]

He lost to Jacobs & Nelo, all 3 fights & won't dare fight Mall or Boo Boo cuz he, his team & his fans know what time it is.

sh.it why stop there...he lost to everyone he ever faced

[Boxing_1013]

Nah...what I'm saying is just because you believe he won cleanly, doesn't mean he won cleanly. It's kinda one of those things where once you acknowledge the validity of contrasting opinions, you understand why it's okay to say you felt a guy won, but recognize it wasn't clean because of how the validity of the contrasting opinion.

I'm also saying that I don't want to see rounds 25-36. If it was a slugfest, sure I would, but one guy boxed and backed up...the other guy stalked...making it an uneventful if not competitive fight.

I do acknowledge differing opinions...I think Horn beat Pac...if someone thinks it was a draw or Pac edged it, and they were not a Pac fanboy...I would say I could see that...I think Lara beat Hurd 7-5...if someone had it 6-6 and edged it to Hurd I could see that.

If someone thinks Pac beat Floyd...no...if someone thinks Hagler beat SRL...no...if someone thinks Ward beat Kov (1st fight)...no...if someone really tries to say that GGG lost any of those fights...nah just don't see that my friend...can't really take that seriously I'm afraid.

Btw...just for comparison sake - GGG-Nelo 2 had more action than the first fight...234-202 landed punches...edge to GGG...fight 1 GGG landed 218-169...Jacobs Nelo was 131-188...objectively speaking the 2nd fight had a big increase in action over the first, and even the first had much more action than a similar MW matchup.

If you don't want to see it that's cool...but that explanation as to why is again imo putting out a narrative that isn't true at all..you're just kind of saying what you want to be true lol...first fight yeah GGG was stalking and Nelo backing up...but fight 2 it was basically fought the whole time in the center of the ring.

I think a 3rd fight would be good drama and eventually I think one of the two guys would break...would be interested to see who it is...but if Nelo doesn't want it there are other good fights out there for both...I would be more interested in GGG fighting at 168 if no Nelo fight...more of a legacy fight imo than anything at 160, right now anyway.

[j.razor]

Razor, Razor, Razor, you just love Golovkin dont you! Tell Charlo to man up and rematch Korobov.

After he knocks out Sissy-g.

[j.razor]

Lol hyping Berto as a challenge for Floyd...but hating on the better fighters GGG has smashed...yawn.

Everyone knows Floyd got busted up by Errol Spence around that time and didn't want that work...some champion...good boxer and great promoter but never really challenged himself in his Money May days.

Very similar careers...just one is black and one is white...which for you makes all the difference in the world

If GGG was black and Floyd was white you would have completely different views on them lol...you're a ho to me, no offense though man...all love

Berto is a better win than anything Sissy-g has done his whole career & if sissy-g was black I would still talk that shet if he was over hyped like you doing with Pvssy-G but he's not & Floyd is T.B.E.

[j.razor]

Why didn't Floyd take any real risks in his Money May days...sad

He did so wtf are YOU making up?