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  • JoartCC2
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    #41
    You all saw what a "green" PAC with just one hand did to Barrera. He took the bravery out of Barrera forever that everytime PAC's name is mentioned, Barrera goes into hiding.

    I said this before, Morales is facing a crippling fight. The killer instincts of PAC is like that of a sadist. He will just pummel you no matter what. No matter the amount of blood lost, no matter the disfigured face, he will pummel you until either your down of worse.

    You heard it from me first. Morales is facing a potential crippling fight.

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      #42
      where is it? lets get it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Vanilla Gorilla
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        #43
        Originally posted by JoartCC2
        You all saw what a "green" PAC with just one hand did to Barrera. He took the bravery out of Barrera forever that everytime PAC's name is mentioned, Barrera goes into hiding.

        I said this before, Morales is facing a crippling fight. The killer instincts of PAC is like that of a sadist. He will just pummel you no matter what. No matter the amount of blood lost, no matter the disfigured face, he will pummel you until either your down of worse.

        You heard it from me first. Morales is facing a potential crippling fight.

        Pac wasnt green when he fought Barerra. If he was green, Barerra would have beat him. A green PAC is when he fought Ledwaba and took the title. Any given day and time Pac would still beat Barerra though.

        But I think your wrong underestimating El Terrible...
        Morales himself is a proven warrior with killer mentality.
        They are both facing a crippling war and i'm giving the slight
        edge to Morales because this is Pac's first rubber match and
        the pressure is on him. Morales has nothing to lose here.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
          But I think your wrong underestimating El Terrible...
          Morales himself is a proven warrior with killer mentality.
          They are both facing a crippling war and i'm giving the slight
          edge to Morales because this is Pac's first rubber match and
          the pressure is on him. Morales has nothing to lose here.
          Pacquiao and Morales are both proven warriors.

          As far as the trilogy, i believed its more pressure on Morales. Morales just lost 3 out of his last 4 fights. So, he needs to prove, not to himself necessarily, but to the boxing world that he still has it. Like in my previous post on another thread, this fight is 50-50 because they are both 1-1.

          But if u ask me if who i favor to win its Pacquiao. I am pickng Pac not because i am a Pac fan, but picking him on the basis of their fights.

          !st fight: even though it was a unanimous decision for Morales, the score was close, 115-113. Pac suffered a cut on top of his eye on the 5th round by an accidental headbutt. The blood oozing down to his eyes limited his vision which EM took advantage of that(which every fighter would). The gloves, yes the gloves. I am not saying Pac can KO EM with 1 punch. Against patsies, both fighters can KO their opponents. But against top opponents, they hardly KO their opponents. If u look at the last few rounds of the fight, EM seems fatigue. Now if Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, Pac could have a knockdown agaisnt Morales on those last few rounds, the fight could have been a draw. If u look also at the the 12th round(or 11th, notsure), when EM decided to go southpaw, Pac caught EM with a hard punch and u saw EM got affected by it(but he recovers quickly). If Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, EM might have been knockdown. Making the rounds still 7-5 in favor of Morales but the fight will be a draw cuz Pac would have that knockdown on the 12th round, giving the score of 10-8 to Manny.

          2nd Fight: Morales trained 2-3 weeks more than Pac, so it shouldn't be an excuse that he was not in condition. EM won 4 of the first 5 rounds(i believed it was 3 out of 5 according to the judges). If u say does the gloves make a diffirence, yes it does. Just look at the 2nd round, Pac connected a straight left to EM that sent Erik stumbling down but hold onto the ropes and recomposed himself. That's the 2nd round, not 6th, 7th, or later rounds, which means EM still in great condition. Even though EM was winning most of the early rounds, Pac is targeting the body and the straight left was hitting EM, which affected his conditioning. You already know what happened from the 6th round to the 10, so no need for me to explain.

          Pacquiao also improved(not by much)on some on his weaknesses. Oscar Larios is no EM, but againt Larios, u saw Pac improved on his boxing skills. Pac is not a boxer like EM or MAB, but those little improvements can make a diffirence in the 3rd fight.
          Last edited by loui_ludwig; 07-28-2006, 08:07 AM.

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            #45
            I think i have 60-40 favouring Pac.

            If Morales is near the ropes then he is in trouble and Pac will come in. He should use his height and reach advantage to take control of Pac with the jabs and stay in the middle of the ring and keep moving side to side. He should box his way through UD easly but Morales as he is has a macho mentallity and wanna eat leather for living and that is how he is going to loss. Pac would come inside and take away Morales andvatge and if Morales is in bad luck he will eventally be near the ropes andget KOed.

            If you notice the last fight where he was KOed he was staying in the near the ropes.

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            • JoartCC2
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              #46
              Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
              Pac wasnt green when he fought Barerra. If he was green, Barerra would have beat him. A green PAC is when he fought Ledwaba and took the title. Any given day and time Pac would still beat Barerra though.

              But I think your wrong underestimating El Terrible...
              Morales himself is a proven warrior with killer mentality.
              They are both facing a crippling war and i'm giving the slight
              edge to Morales because this is Pac's first rubber match and
              the pressure is on him. Morales has nothing to lose here.
              Are you joking? PAC literally tore Barrera to pieces with just a left hand and no "manilla ice", no consistent body attack and no counter-punching in his arsenal.

              Now if you can't call a guy who punches with just one hand, has no right hook to speak of in the southpaw stance and fumbles whenever he back-peddals, then I don't know what your definition of green is Vanilla.

              And also, PAC demolished Lehdwaba training for less than 3 weeks I heard. PAC was a substitute that time.

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              • JoartCC2
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                #47
                Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                Pacquiao and Morales are bot proven warriors.

                As far as the trilogy, i believed its more pressure on Morales. Morales just lost 3 out of his last 4 fights. So, he needs to prove, not to himself necessarily, but to the boxing world that he still has it. Like in my previous post on another thread, this fight is 50-50 because they are both 1-1.

                But if u ask me if who i favor to win its Pacquiao. I am pickng Pac not because i am a Pac fan, but picking him on the basis of their fights.

                !st fight: even though it was a unanimous decision for Morales, the score was close, 115-113. Pac suffered a cut on top of his eye on the 5th round by an accidental headbutt. The blood oozing down to his eyes limited his vision which EM took advantage of that(which every fighter would). The gloves, yes the gloves. I am not saying Pac can KO EM with 1 punch. Against patsies, both fighters can KO their opponents. But against top opponents, they hardly KO their opponents. If u look at the last few rounds of the fight, EM seems fatigue. Now if Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, Pac could have a knockdown agaisnt Morales on those last few rounds, the fight could have been a draw. If u look also at the the 12th round(or 11th, notsure), when EM decided to go southpaw, Pac caught EM with a hard punch and u saw EM got affected by it(but he recovers quickly). If Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, EM might have been knockdown. Making the rounds still 7-5 in favor of Morales but the fight will be a draw cuz Pac would have that knockdown on the 12th round, giving the score of 10-8 to Manny.

                2nd Fight: Morales trained 2-3 weeks more than Pac, so it shouldn't be an excuse that he was not in condition. EM won 4 of the first 5 rounds(i believed it was 3 out of 5 according to the judges). If u say does the gloves make a diffirence, yes it does. Just look at the 2nd round, Pac connected a straight left to EM that sent Erik stumbling down but hold onto the ropes and recomposed himself. That's the 2nd round, not 6th, 7th, or later rounds, which means EM still in great condition. Even though EM was winning most of the early rounds, Pac is targeting the body and the straight left was hitting EM, which affected his conditioning. You already know what happened from the 6th round to the 10, so no need for me to explain.

                Pacquiao also improved(not by much)on some on his weaknesses. Oscar Larios is no EM, but againt Larios, u saw Pac improved on his boxing skills. Pac is not a boxer like EM or MAB, but those little improvements can make a diffirence in the 3rd fight.
                Nice analysis.

                I predict the same fightplan for PAC against EM.

                PAC will sacrifice a few rounds maybe 2-3 rounds just to go to the body and soften Morales up. The usual Morales will buckle on the body punches. MOrales will certainly use a high guard against PAC as PAC has killer power on both fists but that will be remedied once he feels his ribs break.

                Also for the guys who think that MOrales can outbox PAC, they're dreaming and they should wake up.

                PBF with all his so-called "best defense" got a lot of flushes against Judah, a southpaw. We all saw what happened to PBF whenever he tries to play it cute against Judah and he got shot by right hooks which bypassed his jabs making his jab a useless weapon. PBF only won the fight not because he threw jabs but because he stopped counter-punching, stopped throwing soft jabs and started attacking and throwing power punches.

                This is the only chance of MOrales. If he backs up PAC. No way will he be able to try to fend off PAC with mere jabs. PAC will simply toy with his jab by using "manila ice". We all saw what PAC did to MOrales everytime he throws a jab. He has to hurt PAC and back him up.

                If he tries to play it cute like what PBF did against Judah in the early rounds, then he is in for an early night.

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                • Vanilla Gorilla
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JoartCC2
                  Are you joking? PAC literally tore Barrera to pieces with just a left hand and no "manilla ice", no consistent body attack and no counter-punching in his arsenal.

                  Now if you can't call a guy who punches with just one hand, has no right hook to speak of in the southpaw stance and fumbles whenever he back-peddals, then I don't know what your definition of green is Vanilla.

                  And also, PAC demolished Lehdwaba training for less than 3 weeks I heard. PAC was a substitute that time.

                  lol, your analysis of the Pac/Barerra fight is ******ed! No consistent body attack ? no counterpunching ? WTF you were watching ? Pac destroyed Barerra from a "CONSISTENT" body attack and counterpunching. DId you notice everytime Barerra threw , Pac threw back twice as hard. Sure the left hand was the "factor" but his assualt also came from body punishment and counterpunching. I think you need to re-adjust your tv set there pal because you dont quite have a clear analysis of your fighter.
                  Seriously though...watch the Pac/Barerra fight again and I guarantee you the body assualt and the right hand were also factors.

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                  • Vanilla Gorilla
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                    Pacquiao and Morales are bot proven warriors.

                    As far as the trilogy, i believed its more pressure on Morales. Morales just lost 3 out of his last 4 fights. So, he needs to prove, not to himself necessarily, but to the boxing world that he still has it. Like in my previous post on another thread, this fight is 50-50 because they are both 1-1.

                    But if u ask me if who i favor to win its Pacquiao. I am pickng Pac not because i am a Pac fan, but picking him on the basis of their fights.

                    !st fight: even though it was a unanimous decision for Morales, the score was close, 115-113. Pac suffered a cut on top of his eye on the 5th round by an accidental headbutt. The blood oozing down to his eyes limited his vision which EM took advantage of that(which every fighter would). The gloves, yes the gloves. I am not saying Pac can KO EM with 1 punch. Against patsies, both fighters can KO their opponents. But against top opponents, they hardly KO their opponents. If u look at the last few rounds of the fight, EM seems fatigue. Now if Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, Pac could have a knockdown agaisnt Morales on those last few rounds, the fight could have been a draw. If u look also at the the 12th round(or 11th, notsure), when EM decided to go southpaw, Pac caught EM with a hard punch and u saw EM got affected by it(but he recovers quickly). If Pac was wearing Reyes gloves, EM might have been knockdown. Making the rounds still 7-5 in favor of Morales but the fight will be a draw cuz Pac would have that knockdown on the 12th round, giving the score of 10-8 to Manny.

                    2nd Fight: Morales trained 2-3 weeks more than Pac, so it shouldn't be an excuse that he was not in condition. EM won 4 of the first 5 rounds(i believed it was 3 out of 5 according to the judges). If u say does the gloves make a diffirence, yes it does. Just look at the 2nd round, Pac connected a straight left to EM that sent Erik stumbling down but hold onto the ropes and recomposed himself. That's the 2nd round, not 6th, 7th, or later rounds, which means EM still in great condition. Even though EM was winning most of the early rounds, Pac is targeting the body and the straight left was hitting EM, which affected his conditioning. You already know what happened from the 6th round to the 10, so no need for me to explain.

                    Pacquiao also improved(not by much)on some on his weaknesses. Oscar Larios is no EM, but againt Larios, u saw Pac improved on his boxing skills. Pac is not a boxer like EM or MAB, but those little improvements can make a diffirence in the 3rd fight.

                    good post. Solid and non biased, but you know i got Morales in the rubber match.

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                    • Katz
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                      #50
                      Pac will do it again! this time Erik will be sleep on the canvass!

                      just watch my sig.

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