What if AJ vs Ruiz was a farce and moneygrab?

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  • BangEM
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    What if AJ vs Ruiz was a farce and moneygrab?

    "What if" is the question higher minds tend to ask all the time because everything isn't black and white, and there's always a shade of grey somewhere. Now, that the acting, fake posturing and smoke is clear - let's discuss the fight.

    The biggest question is: who benefits the most from the whole ordeal? We know it's not Ruiz because he's basically just a pawn on the grand chessboard. The only way Ruiz becomes a winner is if he can do it again in Saudi Arabia (which I honestly doubt).

    That leaves us with DAZN, Matchroom, Skysports and AJ.

    DAZN biggest target in the US market is the Mexican population. Funnily enough, Mexicans mostly aren't fans of American football. So, college football, NFL and all that crap won't stop them from watching. Regardless of what time the fight is in the US - Mexicans are going to tune in. And that's a win for DAZN since it won't be breaking the bank to the broadcast right.

    Matchroom gets the big chance it has been waiting for to open a new frontier in a very lucrative market. Hearn has been talking about this possibility for at least 2 years now, with Dubai, as the main target. And what a way to start with a big **** by taking the biggest fight in heavyweight boxing since Tyson vs Lennox Lewis there. It's a win for Matchroom. Dubai is next and AJ will be headlining a big fight there next year.

    Skysport gets another opportunity to break its current PPV record of 1.5million buys set by AJ in 2017, without spending much. If it had been in the UK, Skysport would've had to cough up the entire budget for the fight. However, that isn't the case here. A big win for Skysport. I'm projecting 2.5million buys.

    Anthony Joshua the moneyman also gets an opportunity make his fat bank account become yank-esque obese, while becoming a superstar in the US via a dominant performance in Saudi Arabia. A big win for him. Beating Ruiz the first go round wouldn't have done that. And since Wilder has tied himself up till 2021 - it also keep the AJ momentum going, while keeping him busy.

    It's on - tune in on Dec. 7 when history would be made in the desert of Diryah, Saudi Arabia. Let's break all viewing and PPV records. I'm about to book my camel, kaftan and turban. Alhamdulillah!
  • Stuart_boxer
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    10 million for Ruiz is nothing to sniff at plus I think he can raise his profile even if he doesn't win.

    I think Joshua is going to try and play it conservative, use his reach and win on points in a more boring fight than the first one, so if Ruiz loses a boring decision, similar to how he did against Parker that might hurt him negotiating his next fight.

    I'm not convinced Joshua will be able to stay out of any drama for the full 12 rounds, Ruiz was quite aggressive in cutting off the ring in the first fight and seems to have the edge in power:chin ratio. Joshua has also got used to using that low slung guard which Ruiz walked through in the first fight.

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    • BangEM
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      #3
      Originally posted by Stuart_boxer
      10 million for Ruiz is nothing to sniff at plus I think he can raise his profile even if he doesn't win.

      I think Joshua is going to try and play it conservative, use his reach and win on points in a more boring fight than the first one, so if Ruiz loses a boring decision, similar to how he did against Parker that might hurt him negotiating his next fight.

      I'm not convinced Joshua will be able to stay out of any drama for the full 12 rounds, Ruiz was quite aggressive in cutting off the ring in the first fight and seems to have the edge in power:chin ratio. Joshua has also got used to using that low slung guard which Ruiz walked through in the first fight.
      According to Coppinger, the whole money isn't for Ruiz. But he should get $4-5million before tax.

      AJ has all the tools to beat Ruiz. I was just watching his amateur fights and Parker fight again and he does have a good jab when he chooses to use it. He's also very good when it comes to slipping shots and counter. He just need to fight behind his double jab and fight straight with his right and uppercut to keep Ruiz honest whenever he ploddes forward. And he'll dominate Ruiz before knocking him out brutally late (that's if Ruiz doesn't quit on his stool). He just needs to stay away from throwing hooks because you can't hook with a hooker with shorter/faster hands.

      I see AJ schooling and embarrassing Ruiz in the rematch. But he has to come in at 235-240 and be sharp.

      2x champ.

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      • boliodogs
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        I just want to be clear on what you are saying. Are you saying AJ lost the fight on purpose?

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        • BangEM
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          #5
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I just want to be clear on what you are saying. Are you saying AJ lost the fight on purpose?
          I never said anything. The subject + verb expression "what if" is a question.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BangEM

            AJ has all the tools to beat Ruiz.
            LOL. Of course he does. Thats why that lose is embarrassing. AJ has every advantage over Ruiz. Still got battered. I dont think AJ comes back

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              #7
              Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
              LOL. Of course he does. Thats why that lose is embarrassing. AJ has every advantage over Ruiz. Still got battered. I dont think AJ comes back
              The first fight was just weird and despite some of the flaws AJ has since he's not a finished article yet - that wasn't him. He was better in the amateurs than he was in that fight. Even the shot to the temple wasn't even a big enough shot that would leave him concussed if there wasn't anything wrong prior to that. And I smell BS when I see it.

              He just needs to be himself and he'll beat Ruiz like a thief.

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              • The plunger man
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                Joshua dropped Ruiz 1st with a peach of a left hook so we know Joshua has the power ...so Joshua if he remains patient and fights smart he can continually hurt and bust up Ruiz as the rounds go by...it was his recklessness that got him hurt in the 1st place.
                Ruiz might take everything that Joshua throws on him and still keep coming and catch Joshua again.
                We just don’t know what will happen in the rematch.
                Did Joshua take Ruiz serious and was his heart and mind on the fight ? You just don’t know and we will find out in December.
                I do know Ruiz has lost the first war of the rematch because he is not happy about Saudi and was forced by the lawsuit to finally man up and make the fight.

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                • boliodogs
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BangEM
                  I never said anything. The subject + verb expression "what if" is a question.
                  Be clear. Are you saying what if AJ lost the fight on purpose? Saying what if the fight was a farce and a money grab sure sounds like you are implying the fight might have been fixed. It's a very vague thread and I don't like word games. Be clear. What if what? If I can't understand what you mean then I'll go to a thread I do understand. I personally think the fight was real and not a farce or a money grab. I think AJ did his best to win but was defeated by a guy who fought better than he did that night. I pick Ruiz to win by KO again.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Be clear. Are you saying what if AJ lost the fight on purpose? Saying what if the fight was a farce and a money grab sure sounds like you are implying the fight might have been fixed. It's a very vague thread and I don't like word games. Be clear. What if what? If I can't understand what you mean then I'll go to a thread I do understand. I personally think the fight was real and not a farce or a money grab. I think AJ did his best to win but was defeated by a guy who fought better than he did that night. I pick Ruiz to win by KO again.
                    LMAO. Don't just say it, just make sure you bet your life savings on it, so you can triple your money.

                    Talk is cheap.

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