Comments Thread For: Wilder: Just Because Joshua Lost Once Doesn't Mean It's Over

[Ray*]

I honestly thought Ruiz had a shot to win as well because he’s a good fighter. But Joshua is way more accomplished in the ring and took Wlads best shots, and dominated Parker, not to mention the KO of Charles Martin to take his paper belt.

Taking all that into consideration, I just didn’t see Ruiz dominating. I’m sorry. Had the fight been a close fight I don’t think people would be riding Joshua so hard. But he was basically destroyed by a 50-1 underdog or something. Anytime that happens it’s gotta come as at least somewhat of a shocker.

I think with Joshua it was more to do with the speed of his achievements, to have three belts after 22 fights was quite good for him. And the fact that at 22 fights his resume was probably better than anyone at HW. I never look at odds when it comes to picking fights at HW.

The bookies and the punters obviously just had a look at Ruiz, saw the fat short guy and just decided he had NO shot. And to be honest I too didn’t think he had a shot, I thought he would trouble AJ for a while, due to his speed etc

But hey that’s boxing for you.

[Boxing lives]

Yeah, AJ and Hearn put the Wilder fight off by forcing Wilder to duck until 2020. They also forced him to ask for 50/50 even though the delusional bum who doesn't generate any money didn't deserve anywhere near to that much. They also forced Wilder to come out and say he wouldn't accept 50/50 even if it was offered because he was scared that Hearn may actually offer it just to get the coward into the ring. They also forced him to turn down 100 Million.

You're right, AJ and Hearn clearly didn't want it. Wilder did though. Haha.

Hey your back!!! Haha I was worried about you. I thought you might have committed suicide after your idol AJ was knocked out by big slobby! You quit responding to my valid points after AJ was embarrassed lol!! AJ is the one contractually obligated to another Ruiz beatdown, so he isn't free to fight anyone else until 2020. Wilder has Ortiz and Fury lined up as his next fights. AJ is now officially on the lower tier of heavyweights like I had been trying to tell you before. He's on the level of the Dillian Whyte's, Jarrell Miller's and so on. B level guys that aren't elite. He is in the loser's circle. Deontay clearly has bigger fish to fry in the more deserving and higher level Ortiz and Fury. Joshua can still earn that fight, as I'm sure Deontay would love nothing more than to put AJ to sleep. I don't see how Anthony will beat Ruiz in the rematch though. He will probably be beaten up again (with a clueless look of bewilderment on his face) and stopped by Ruiz. So instead of AJ it will probably be Ruiz waiting for Wilder for the undisputed championship fight after the smoke clears, not that limited robot AJ. Fury is the big fight for Wilder, always has been LIKE I SAID BEFORE!

[Sid-Knee]

Please show Me where there is a loss on Wilders record and then show Me who has his TITLE BELT.

See when you LOSE someone else gets your Title. So who has Wilder's?!?

It's called corruption and cheating. That's what the US does. No one thinks Chavez/Whitaker was draw do they? But it was scored as one. As I say, it's called corruption. The vast majority of boxing fans had Fury winning. Because he did win. Deal with it.

[Sid-Knee]

Man I was amazed I came on this site and I had 7 quotes from Sid-Knee!

Damn!

I was chuckling and slightly feeling stalked at the same time.

Okay since I don't feel like addressing all of your topics I will pick a couple.

#1 : There are many symptoms of a concussion one being temporarily blacking out which is a form of sleep. Under AJs own admission he was concussed after the TEMPLE SHOT.

Therefore he was out momentarily then he revived and got BEATDOWN 3 more times until he decide he did NOT want to engage any longer.

Ergo he got beat to sleep and then HE QUIT!!

#2 : Voluntary or not that is a SHYT contract Ruiz has and you know it so my question is why should you sign a contract in which you get paid less the first time as a challenger and then get paid less even if you win and BECOME CHAMPION?

How is that fair?

When does the other person get to choose anything versus AJ?!?!?

If Andy whoops his Ashes again is AJ still the Man?!?

3: Wilder was putting up his title too. Why if he lost should he have NO OPPORTUNITY to regain his title?

It would be different if he wasn't risking losing something as well.
He has had his belt longer than AJ so why should he not receive a rematch or any compensation if he wins and becomes Champion

That's your explanation of you saying AJ was put to sleep as well as quitting? Oh dear. Just accept you were caught making a fool of yourself and we'll say no more.

Why did Ruiz sign the contract then if it was so bad? Why was he gushing about changing the lives of his family and looking happy about it? What changed?

Ruiz is getting more money for the rematch than he did for the first fight. This is common knowledge. Sorry if you're in the dark about this information. Well I hope this is the case and not you being angry about Ruiz being paid less than AJ because that would be absolutely ridiculous for obvious reasons. One was a massive star, the other wasn't even cared about.

The big A side gets to present a contract to the voluntary. He either likes the deal, or he doesn't. Ruiz liked it, that's why he couldn't wait to sign. Ruiz was in no position to choose anything. It's completely ret3rded to believe he should have. Big stars don't get dictated to by nobodies. Get a brain.

If Ruiz wins the rematch, Ruiz can go and make any deals he wants. AJ will have no power over him. All AJ has is the rematch clause Ruiz signed. That's all AJ wants Ruiz to honour. The contract he signed.

I asked you a simple question. Which massive star gave some bum with a title a rematch clause their way? If this is the norm, you should have a few examples at the very least. If you can't find anything, that's because it's f3cking dumb to think it should happen. Wilder is just a scared little b1tch who wanted to come up with as many excuses as he could to make sure the fight didn't happen. It was again proven when Wilder started screaming that it should just be a one fight job between him and AJ with no rematch, even though he spent over a year screaming for one. The dude just can't keep on top of his excuses. He contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth. The fact you're a fan of the joke is shameful. But you do seem to have the right intellect to be his fan. That is very clear.

[Sid-Knee]

The reason why Wilder fans where laughing was because Wilder said after AJ pulled that Flux SHYT and dipped on negotiations that AJ would one da be begging to fight him.

Well AJ fans at the time laughed Wilder out of the room but after AJ and NO ONE cared about fighting him and fans didn't even know who he was he started BEGGING WILDER TO FIGHT!!!

PROPHECY FULFILLED

Your delusion knows no bounds. Well done. Too pathetic for words.

[Sid-Knee]

Hey your back!!! Haha I was worried about you. I thought you might have committed suicide after your idol AJ was knocked out by big slobby! You quit responding to my valid points after AJ was embarrassed lol!! AJ is the one contractually obligated to another Ruiz beatdown, so he isn't free to fight anyone else until 2020. Wilder has Ortiz and Fury lined up as his next fights. AJ is now officially on the lower tier of heavyweights like I had been trying to tell you before. He's on the level of the Dillian Whyte's, Jarrell Miller's and so on. B level guys that aren't elite. He is in the loser's circle. Deontay clearly has bigger fish to fry in the more deserving and higher level Ortiz and Fury. Joshua can still earn that fight, as I'm sure Deontay would love nothing more than to put AJ to sleep. I don't see how Anthony will beat Ruiz in the rematch though. He will probably be beaten up again (with a clueless look of bewilderment on his face) and stopped by Ruiz. So instead of AJ it will probably be Ruiz waiting for Wilder for the undisputed championship fight after the smoke clears, not that limited robot AJ. Fury is the big fight for Wilder, always has been LIKE I SAID BEFORE!

I quit responding to your valid points? Hahahahahaha. You never make valid points.

Wilder didn't know Ruiz was going to win for there to be a rematch. He couldn't see into the future. So this is one of your worst excuses yet. Wilder is a punk. A coward. You're pathetic trying to excuse him and his cowardice.

AJ is on the lower tier of heavyweights, but Wilder with his corrupt "Win" over that hype job nobody in Ortiz and nothing else is top tier? Hahahahahahahahaha. How you mange to be this pathetic is a wonder to me. You really are sad and desperate aren't you? Wilder will be exposed again pretty soon just like a 50% version of Fury did. His shlt resume won't get any better because he isn't good enough to beat top fighters. He never was, nor ever will be. He'll just continue to duck and delude himself that he's up there with the greats when his resume is worthless.

AJ is on the level of Dillian Whyte even though he dominated Whyte and knocked him cold? That's another good one from you. Well done you delirious weirdo. It makes perfect sense. Haha. Miller isn't on any level other than chemist level. Lets see what he's like when he isn't being your typical American juice cheat.

Wilder is in the losing column as well. He lost to Fury, remember? Duh!!

What has Ortiz done to be high level? Nothing. It's just desperate Wilder fans trying to boost him up so it looks good for the bum that is Wilder. That's all he has in his career. Tell me when either build a resume like AJ has.

[Boxing lives]

I quit responding to your valid points? Hahahahahaha. You never make valid points.

Wilder didn't know Ruiz was going to win for there to be a rematch. He couldn't see into the future. So this is one of your worst excuses yet. Wilder is a punk. A coward. You're pathetic trying to excuse him and his cowardice.

AJ is on the lower tier of heavyweights, but Wilder with his corrupt "Win" over that hype job nobody in Ortiz and nothing else is top tier? Hahahahahahahahaha. How you mange to be this pathetic is a wonder to me. You really are sad and desperate aren't you? Wilder will be exposed again pretty soon just like a 50% version of Fury did. His shlt resume won't get any better because he isn't good enough to beat top fighters. He never was, nor ever will be. He'll just continue to duck and delude himself that he's up there with the greats when his resume is worthless.

AJ is on the level of Dillian Whyte even though he dominated Whyte and knocked him cold? That's another good one from you. Well done you delirious weirdo. It makes perfect sense. Haha. Miller isn't on any level other than chemist level. Lets see what he's like when he isn't being your typical American juice cheat.

Wilder is in the losing column as well. He lost to Fury, remember? Duh!!

What has Ortiz done to be high level? Nothing. It's just desperate Wilder fans trying to boost him up so it looks good for the bum that is Wilder. That's all he has in his career. Tell me when either build a resume like AJ has.

AJ and Whyte went to war with each other. Both hurting each other and AJ was lucky to get Whyte out of there first. AJ is always getting into wars. Whether its Whyte, a 40 year old relic in Wlad or a fat blob in Ruiz. Whyte is a juicer just like Juicesha! Or is that physique of AJ natural??? Haha yeah sure AJ's clean alright. Wilder lost to Fury? I seem to remember Tyson laying on his back a couple times. Its hard to win a fight when you keep eating canvas!! Fury had some good little stick and move boxing. He gave Wilder a decent challenge. Deontay isn't shying away from the rematch though. He demands the rematch to set the record straight like a real champion! Ortiz gave him his toughest fight, so he also gets a rematch. Why doesn't AJ set the record straight with Whyte?? After he loses to Ruiz again he needs to go set that record straight. Wilder can't duck a lower tier guy. You can't make that claim anymore. AJ has to beat Ruiz to earn the Deontay fight now obviously or else Ruiz is the fighter that deserves the shot. Losers don't get title shots you ***** twat!!

[FreezeIzGawd]

That's your explanation of you saying AJ was put to sleep as well as quitting? Oh dear. Just accept you were caught making a fool of yourself and we'll say no more.

Why did Ruiz sign the contract then if it was so bad? Why was he gushing about changing the lives of his family and looking happy about it? What changed?

Ruiz is getting more money for the rematch than he did for the first fight. This is common knowledge. Sorry if you're in the dark about this information. Well I hope this is the case and not you being angry about Ruiz being paid less than AJ because that would be absolutely ridiculous for obvious reasons. One was a massive star, the other wasn't even cared about.

The big A side gets to present a contract to the voluntary. He either likes the deal, or he doesn't. Ruiz liked it, that's why he couldn't wait to sign. Ruiz was in no position to choose anything. It's completely ret3rded to believe he should have. Big stars don't get dictated to by nobodies. Get a brain.

If Ruiz wins the rematch, Ruiz can go and make any deals he wants. AJ will have no power over him. All AJ has is the rematch clause Ruiz signed. That's all AJ wants Ruiz to honour. The contract he signed.

I asked you a simple question. Which massive star gave some bum with a title a rematch clause their way? If this is the norm, you should have a few examples at the very least. If you can't find anything, that's because it's f3cking dumb to think it should happen. Wilder is just a scared little b1tch who wanted to come up with as many excuses as he could to make sure the fight didn't happen. It was again proven when Wilder started screaming that it should just be a one fight job between him and AJ with no rematch, even though he spent over a year screaming for one. The dude just can't keep on top of his excuses. He contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth. The fact you're a fan of the joke is shameful. But you do seem to have the right intellect to be his fan. That is very clear.

# 1 Uhhhhh Yes if I knock you out and then BEAT YOU DOWN 3 more times until you stop fighting then yes you were BEAT TO SLEEP UNTIL YOU QUIT!!!

If your lights go out even for a second after a punch that is Called getting slept.

#2 Why did he sign the contract if it was so bad?

I actually agree. Why sign a bad contract? So then why is Wilder a coward and ducking because he did not agree to sign a contract he felt was bad?

I don't understand AJ fans. If you don't sign the contract then you are a COWARD but if you sign the BAD CONTRACT then IT IS STILL YOUR FAULT!!!

I did NOT say Ruiz received less money in the rematch then he did for the FIRST FIGHT.

I said why should you have to make less than AJ in both fights?

If I have to make less as the challenger than why do I still make less than him as the Champion?

#3 Honestly you may be right but AJ is not a big star over here is what I keep saying. He has only had 1 fight in the US and he was PULVERIZED!!!

No one but HARDCORE fans has ever HEARD OF HIM

[Boxing lives]

# 1 Uhhhhh Yes if I knock you out and then BEAT YOU DOWN 3 more times until you stop fighting then yes you were BEAT TO SLEEP UNTIL YOU QUIT!!!

If your lights go out even for a second after a punch that is Called getting slept.

#2 Why did he sign the contract if it was so bad?

I actually agree. Why sign a bad contract? So then why is Wilder a coward and ducking because he did not agree to sign a contract he felt was bad?

I don't understand AJ fans. If you don't sign the contract then you are a COWARD but if you sign the BAD CONTRACT then IT IS STILL YOUR FAULT!!!

I did NOT say Ruiz received less money in the rematch then he did for the FIRST FIGHT.

I said why should you have to make less than AJ in both fights?

If I have to make less as the challenger than why do I still make less than him as the Champion?

#3 Honestly you may be right but AJ is not a big star over here is what I keep saying. He has only had 1 fight in the US and he was PULVERIZED!!!

No one but HARDCORE fans has ever HEARD OF HIM

Yeah AJ is a nobody in the USA. The only way he would ever have a PPV in America is to fight the A side Deontay Wilder. Its hard to earn that shot when your getting tagged up and knocked out by the likes of Andy Ruiz though. Wilder and Fury are the only heavyweights that casual fans even know about in America. ESPN was starting to talk about AJ since he was fighting in New York but then he got absolutely annihilated so basically he just came across as a typical Brit that gets knocked out by an American. Not even the best American heavyweight at that. Fury was right. Nobody cares about AJ anymore now that he's lost. He's yesterdays news especially if he gets his ass kicked by Ruiz again in Saudi Arabia.

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AJ and Whyte went to war with each other. Both hurting each other and AJ was lucky to get Whyte out of there first. AJ is always getting into wars. Whether its Whyte, a 40 year old relic in Wlad or a fat blob in Ruiz. Whyte is a juicer just like Juicesha! Or is that physique of AJ natural??? Haha yeah sure AJ's clean alright. Wilder lost to Fury? I seem to remember Tyson laying on his back a couple times. Its hard to win a fight when you keep eating canvas!! Fury had some good little stick and move boxing. He gave Wilder a decent challenge. Deontay isn't shying away from the rematch though. He demands the rematch to set the record straight like a real champion! Ortiz gave him his toughest fight, so he also gets a rematch. Why doesn't AJ set the record straight with Whyte?? After he loses to Ruiz again he needs to go set that record straight. Wilder can't duck a lower tier guy. You can't make that claim anymore. AJ has to beat Ruiz to earn the Deontay fight now obviously or else Ruiz is the fighter that deserves the shot. Losers don't get title shots you ***** twat!!

AJ dominated Whyte you fool. Whyte landed a few punches and that's it. But you think AJ needs to fight him again to settle something? Haha. You never disappoint in being grotesquely deluded and pathetic.

AJ has had a few tough fights against tough opposition. The rest has been smooth sailing. Wilder, the complete bum, is the one who gets involved in wars with bums. If he stopped ducking everyone, he'd be in more than a war. He'd be knocked out and have his joke career being brought to a halt.

Americans are the ones who keep getting busted for performance enhancers. Go and look at your history in sport. You're the most corrupt nation on the planet. That's a fact. The evidence shows this. But you're accusing AJ? Irony.

Fury being dropped twice erases the fact that Wilder got a boxing lesson and lost? You sad little nobody. Wilder was exposed by the worst version of Fury. You need to deal with that fact and stop indulging in your American fantasies and delusion. But guess what, American corruption as per usual came in and saved Deontay just like they did in the Ortiz fight.

Ortiz hasn't done anything to deserve the rematch other than look like shlt against hand picked bums. No one called for it. They wanted the AJ fight but Wilder yet again ran like a b1tch and refused to fight until 2020. He's a coward and a bum who is fighting another coward and bum. Two jokes who have proven nothing other than a decent win against Jennings 3 years ago. And you have to PPV it. Haha. Enjoy paying for it you clown. You idiots brought this on yourself.

When you look at the garbage Wilder fought and what they did to get the fight, it's easy to see that you don't have to do anything to get a fight with him. You just have to be a bum, obese and coming off a big lay off, or unproven hype job. Anything but the top guys.

I'm not a *****, you American ret3rd. I live in a house. You though, are in fact a deluded ret3rd who I school all the time with logic and facts. All you have is your fantasies because you're weak like most American cowards are.