If you're a real knowledgeable boxing fan, this should be your P4P list.

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  • SN!PER
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    #11
    And the greatest heavyweights of all time are the Klitschko bros, Rocky Marciano, and Gene Tunney.

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    • R-Hand Southpaw
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      #12
      OPs real p4p #10

      1-10. Canelos ****

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      • sunny31
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        #13
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        This is some kind of trick. Your hate of great Eastern European boxers is well known as is your insane love of Canelo. Any list of yours would have Canelo number 1 and none of these boxers would be on your list. So what's the joke then? GGG, Loma, and Bivol are on my top ten pfp best list and the winner of Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk probably will be. Usyk was on my list but he is unproven at heavyweight.
        You dont understand p4p...it doesn't just reset and you come out of the top10 when you move up in weight. It also factors in what you have accomplished to date. Usyk is not moving up because he can't make CW anymore, it's because hes beaten everyone there is to beat and is looking for new challenges in a higher weight....that is THE definition of pound for pound. The whole reason it was derived was because Sugar Ray Robinson was by far the best fighter in the world at any weight so they needed to define him as a non-heavyweight. But obviously as you put yourself in more of a disadvantage size wise, fights are going to get more competitive, even to inferior fighters, ie his loss to Lamotta.

        Loma and Crawford are the outstanding fighters today, because they've had to move up to find challenges also. Will they need to keep picking up wins to retain their status? Yes...but that doesn't mean you dismiss what they've done in lower weight classes. Or the quality of their wins, particularly Loma.

        It is largely opinion based and subjective, but common sense still applies, you dont just dismiss people's accomplishments, you also dont flip people in and out like skittles. I think you need to adjust your understanding of it.

        I think most people take a medium term view.
        Last edited by sunny31; 08-18-2019, 01:27 PM.

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        • EL_GRINGO
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          #14
          Originally posted by mcdonalds
          1. Loma
          2. Usyk
          3. GGG
          4. Bivol
          5. Gvozdyk
          6. Beterbiev
          7. Kovalev
          8. Briedas
          9. Derveryanchenko
          10. Kavaliauskas
          Where is Canelo,he's of white ancestry so we will be claiming him,put him also on the list

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          • mcdonalds
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            #15
            Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
            Where is Canelo,he's of white ancestry so we will be claiming him,put him also on the list
            Canelo isn't of Eastern European/commie descent sir

            If anything he's Irish or a black albino

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            • DuckAdonis
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              #16
              Good list

              I got:

              1.Canelo at 160
              2.Canelo at 164
              3.Canelo at 168
              4.Canelo at 155
              5.Canelo at 154
              6.Ca$hnelo
              7.Bo$$nelo
              8.Canelo at 152
              9.Gervonta Davis
              10.Teofimo Lopez

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              • W1LL
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                #17
                Should have thrown Kowanacky in there for a laugh.

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                • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                  #18
                  I thought HWs traditionally were not on the P4P list, does Usyk get a pass because he moved up?

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                  • mcdonalds
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
                    Good list

                    I got:

                    1.Canelo at 160
                    2.Canelo at 164
                    3.Canelo at 168
                    4.Canelo at 155
                    5.Canelo at 154
                    6.Ca$hnelo
                    7.Bo$$nelo
                    8.Canelo at 152
                    9.Gervonta Davis
                    10.Teofimo Lopez
                    Where is King Ryan Garcia?

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