Why do Brits act like they read the contract that Ruiz signed?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #21
    Originally posted by larryxxx..
    Gomez literally said they were still reviewing the contract, that is why Wilder nor them were there....I never said Warren said it wasnt official..Oscar and Gomez called him out on it just like Hearn is being called out now
    How is Hearn being called out you idiot? Nobody is denying that Hearn has a signed contract from before the first fight. They're saying they don't agree with it and want to change it. Huge ****ing difference.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      How is Hearn being called out you idiot? Nobody is denying that Hearn has a signed contract from before the first fight. They're saying they don't agree with it and want to change it. Huge ****ing difference.
      More name calling, grow up and debate..stop being so emotional...Rematch is not the debate, it is the lies about location and posters you like taking it as gospel like you have the contract at home

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        #23
        Originally posted by mcdonalds
        they are constantly crying about how Ruiz signed a contract so he must do what hearn says
        Was the contract published over in the UK and is accessible for all UK citizens?
        Where can the rest of the world see the contract?
        Ok. I know the popular comeback to the Brits' perspective is, "You can't say jack-sheet cuz you've never actually seen the contract".
        So yeah, I think they get that and are fully aware who is and isn't privy to the contract details.

        The point is, a "rematch clause" included in the original contract has been exercised. The promoter for Joshua has given every impression that Ruiz may be in breach of contract IF he refuses to fight in a particular venue.

        All the Brits are saying is, without knowing all the details, IF Andy Ruiz is trying to renegotiate a contract that he signed in good faith, then that is generally frowned upon, possibly shady, and one of the things wrong in the world today.

        Now...has it become somewhat standard practice to force litigation when one regrets signing a contract, in order to make alterations or concessions on either side ? I think so.

        OF COURSE none of the NSB faithful have seen the contract. But I don't think there's anything wrong with assuming that Andy Ruiz is likely attempting to insert some leverage over said "rematch clause".
        I'm American and I tend to believe Eddie Hearn when he said, "Andy was happy as pie to sign the contract for the first fight, being fully aware of the rematch clause." Sure, I'm the first to admit I don't know what happens behind closed doors or what all is in the rematch clause. But if I had to guess, based on common sense and the history of world champion rematch contracts, I'd say Ruiz's camp is looking for some loopholes to gain leverage on where the fight takes place and how much his purse cut is. Does that sound relatively reasonable ?

        So...I don't think it's that much of a stretch to reference the lack of credibility involved in not readily honoring a previously signed contract. Just because litigating your way out of a contract has become acceptable in many circles, that doesn't make it right. If the roles were reversed, wouldn't Americans be saying the same thing ?

        Peace.
        Last edited by CauliflowerEars; 08-18-2019, 02:46 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by larryxxx..
          More name calling, grow up and debate..stop being so emotional...Rematch is not the debate, it is the lies about location and posters you like taking it as gospel like you have the contract at home
          No lies about location. Hearn says he has a contract from before the first fight that says Joshua chooses the location of the rematch, they've chosen Saudi Arabia. Where's the lies?

          Ruiz not wanting to honour the contract does not make Hearn a liar. You PBC shill.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            No lies about location. Hearn says he has a contract from before the first fight that says Joshua chooses the location of the rematch, they've chosen Saudi Arabia. Where's the lies?

            Ruiz not wanting to honour the contract does not make Hearn a liar. You PBC shill.
            Ruiz is saying he isnt fighting there and obviously debating what Hearn is saying..so they seem to be negotiating..

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              #26
              Originally posted by larryxxx..
              Ruiz is saying he isnt fighting there and obviously debating what Hearn is saying..so they seem to be negotiating..
              As i said, Ruiz doesn't want to honour the contract. So how does that make Hearn a liar?

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                #27
                If Hearn was lying about the contract don't you think someone from Ruiz's team would have said what Hearn is lying about by now? No rational person would be questioning it right now. It's obviously what Hearn says it is.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  If Hearn was lying about the contract don't you think someone from Ruiz's team would have said what Hearn is lying about by now? No rational person would be questioning it right now. It's obviously what Hearn says it is.
                  Ruiz himself just said the contract was not accurate and that is what they are negotiating now

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by larryxxx..
                    Ruiz himself just said the contract was not accurate and that is what they are negotiating now
                    That could mean lots of things. Certainly doesn't mean Hearn is lying.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      That could mean lots of things. Certainly doesn't mean Hearn is lying.
                      Barrett vs the Parrot .

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