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  • *Makaveli*
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    #11
    Originally posted by The plunger man
    Sign the the contract chumley and face AJ then...and stop trying to avoid the fight
    He's not avoiding the fight he's just not being dictated to by a ****ney grease ball to go and fight in the middle East.

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    • Adamsc151
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      #12
      Ruiz winning in June was no fluke. He is a skilled boxer with a great deal of experience in both codes of the sport, and more importantly he was simply the more focused and determined man on the night. Though it was no fluke, I believe it will be a one-off and Joshua will be in good enough form to win conclusively in the rematch.

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      • thack
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        #13
        I've got the fat lad at 7/2 and expect to collect!

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        • Boxing Scene
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          #14
          Originally posted by makaveli1875
          He's not avoiding the fight he's just not being dictated to by a ****ney grease ball to go and fight in the middle East.
          Yeah except he already was dictated to. He signed a rematch clause, something you know NOTHING about obviously.

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          • MASTER OF you
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxing Scene
            Yeah except he already was dictated to. He signed a rematch clause, something you know NOTHING about obviously.
            Exactly! that poster has as much brains as the guy in his avatar! zero!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Scopedog
              Ruiz shocking AJ was an absolutely huge moment in the sport, and he won my respect big time with it, but if he's just going to fall into the same pattern of primadonna behaviour that the other champions and their promoters have exhibited then he's going to exhaust my patience really quickly. He doesn't want to fight in the UK, doesn't want to fight in Saudi Arabia, only wants to fight in the US and is going to whine and sulk until he gets his way or gets sued or stripped. I really wish I knew what the contract for the first fight said so I can know for sure who's right and who's full of it here, but it wouldn't be such a problem if he'd just stop being so damn picky and just agreed to fight wherever. He had no problem flying to New Zealand to fight Parker so why the fuss now in fighting a rematch with a guy he beat by TKO? The heavyweight scene is just exhausting in the minute, there are more good fighters with a claim to being top dog than there has been since the 90s / early 2000s but all of them are divas or have sleazy promoters with a diva mindset, and every fight is an utter chore to make as a result. I'd hoped that Ruiz wasn't going to be like that, shows what I know.
              He said he would fight in Mexico...Further, if the money is the same shouldn't the champion get to choose the location. I know that contract got signed, but is Hearn breaking boxing tradition here regarding rematches. Ruiz didn't choose NY...Hearn and Joshua did.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #17
                Boxing is dead and the sport has only its internal politics to blame
                By Dylan Hernandez, Los Angeles Times
                August 15, 2019:

                However, boxing has once again proved to be boxing 's worst enemy, as the sport 's internal politics have prevented highly anticipated matches from materializing.

                The momentum the sport gained over the last couple of years has vanished.

                Alvarez never clearly defeated Golovkin -- their first match was ruled a draw and Alvarez was awarded a controversial decision in the rematch -- but he has moved on. Alvarez intensely dislikes Golovkin, enough to where he doesn 't want to give him the massive payday that would be part of a third fight.

                Alvarez, who defeated Danny Jacobs in May in a match that failed to create much buzz, is now considering a list of capable but relatively anonymous opponents for his next fight, according to The Athletic.

                Once viewed as an overhyped media creation, Alvarez reconstructed his image in recent years by taking on dangerous opponents such as Golovkin. His refusal to fight him a third time has made that goodwill disappear.

                Wilder knocked down Fury twice in a dramatic draw at Staples Center last December, but, here, too, no rematch has taken place. The second go- around isn 't expected to happen until next year, after Fury takes on someone named Otto Wallin.

                Joshua, a gold medalist for England at the 2012 Olympics, made his United States debut in June with the aim of becoming a household name in the American market. He was instead exposed in an upset loss to Ruiz, who is from Imperial.

                Joshua 's promoter has struck a deal to stage the rematch in Saudi Arabia. Even if Joshua wins, the location will slow his efforts to become known in the United States. The same is true of Ruiz. His blubbery appearance garnered him some mainstream attention in the wake of his win over Joshua ; building off that would be easier in the United States than it would be in the Middle East.

                The decision to take the fight to Saudi Arabia has been criticized over the country 's human rights record, the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, its treatment of the ***** community and the war in Yemen.

                In an interview with Fight Hub TV, promoter Eddie Hearn said the controversy was evidence that the fight is "absolutely massive."

                In England, maybe.

                The absence of outrage in the United States reflects the reality that the majority of American sports fans have no idea who Anthony Joshua is or what he does for a living.

                The situation could become even messier. Ruiz is contractually obligated to fight Joshua under conditions that were negotiated prior to their first fight -- part of the deal was that Joshua controlled over where the rematch would take place -- but is threatening to not to do so unless terms of his deal are improved.

                Considering everything that hasn 't or won 't happen in boxing, the most significant card on the schedule could be the Sept. 28 show at Staples Center.

                The small crowd at the news conference wasn 't a surprise. The fights are viewed as an opportunity to expose to a new audience welterweight champion Errol Spence, and, to a lesser degree, super middleweight champion David Benavidez.

                "I 'm finally getting the opportunity to fight the top guys, the top five guys in the welterweight division and make my name known, " said Spence, who will take on the pitbull-like Shawn Porter.

                Nothing wrong with that. Shows like this are an important part of the sport 's ecosystem.

                The problem is there is little else to look ahead to. Boxing can, but won 't, provide that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The plunger man
                  Sign the the contract chumley and face AJ then...and stop trying to avoid the fight
                  He doesn’t want to go to Saudi Arabia so Eddie is checking his offers from Burma and Somalia.

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                  • Straightener
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by thack
                    I've got the fat lad at 7/2 and expect to collect!
                    So you said before .... where ? I can’t find anywhere near them odds

                    Screen shot it or it didn’t happen

                    **** edit **** sky sports doing 11/4 of a Ruiz to win by ko/tko that’s top odds still
                    Last edited by Straightener; 08-15-2019, 06:20 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      Boxing is dead and the sport has only its internal politics to blame
                      By Dylan Hernandez, Los Angeles Times
                      August 15, 2019:

                      However, boxing has once again proved to be boxing 's worst enemy, as the sport 's internal politics have prevented highly anticipated matches from materializing.

                      The momentum the sport gained over the last couple of years has vanished.

                      Alvarez never clearly defeated Golovkin -- their first match was ruled a draw and Alvarez was awarded a controversial decision in the rematch -- but he has moved on. Alvarez intensely dislikes Golovkin, enough to where he doesn 't want to give him the massive payday that would be part of a third fight.

                      Alvarez, who defeated Danny Jacobs in May in a match that failed to create much buzz, is now considering a list of capable but relatively anonymous opponents for his next fight, according to The Athletic.

                      Once viewed as an overhyped media creation, Alvarez reconstructed his image in recent years by taking on dangerous opponents such as Golovkin. His refusal to fight him a third time has made that goodwill disappear.

                      Wilder knocked down Fury twice in a dramatic draw at Staples Center last December, but, here, too, no rematch has taken place. The second go- around isn 't expected to happen until next year, after Fury takes on someone named Otto Wallin.

                      Joshua, a gold medalist for England at the 2012 Olympics, made his United States debut in June with the aim of becoming a household name in the American market. He was instead exposed in an upset loss to Ruiz, who is from Imperial.

                      Joshua 's promoter has struck a deal to stage the rematch in Saudi Arabia. Even if Joshua wins, the location will slow his efforts to become known in the United States. The same is true of Ruiz. His blubbery appearance garnered him some mainstream attention in the wake of his win over Joshua ; building off that would be easier in the United States than it would be in the Middle East.

                      The decision to take the fight to Saudi Arabia has been criticized over the country 's human rights record, the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, its treatment of the ***** community and the war in Yemen.

                      In an interview with Fight Hub TV, promoter Eddie Hearn said the controversy was evidence that the fight is "absolutely massive."

                      In England, maybe.

                      The absence of outrage in the United States reflects the reality that the majority of American sports fans have no idea who Anthony Joshua is or what he does for a living.

                      The situation could become even messier. Ruiz is contractually obligated to fight Joshua under conditions that were negotiated prior to their first fight -- part of the deal was that Joshua controlled over where the rematch would take place -- but is threatening to not to do so unless terms of his deal are improved.

                      Considering everything that hasn 't or won 't happen in boxing, the most significant card on the schedule could be the Sept. 28 show at Staples Center.

                      The small crowd at the news conference wasn 't a surprise. The fights are viewed as an opportunity to expose to a new audience welterweight champion Errol Spence, and, to a lesser degree, super middleweight champion David Benavidez.

                      "I 'm finally getting the opportunity to fight the top guys, the top five guys in the welterweight division and make my name known, " said Spence, who will take on the pitbull-like Shawn Porter.

                      Nothing wrong with that. Shows like this are an important part of the sport 's ecosystem.

                      The problem is there is little else to look ahead to. Boxing can, but won 't, provide that.

                      http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/boxi...fX2?ocid=ientp
                      ... now: Dylan Hernandez isn't "specialized" in "pro boxing", tbh... he's providing some "casual common sense" commentaries...

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