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Originally posted by pasawayako
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he will be near the very top when his carreer is over for sure
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...and the thing is this interview was before the cotto fight too and pac has done much, broke records since then
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This. Is Pacquiao paying that guy? 11,000 posts is all about Manny.Originally posted by A.K View PostComment
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I'm well aware of that fact, as well as that GrandPac is just a 6-division titleholder...Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
What I'm trying to say is, The Ring and Lineal Championships were held by the old-timers when multiple major belts were yet to exist... That's why many observers and historians considers them as valid championships... Hence, recognizing GrandPac as an 8-division champion...
Can't say I agree with them nor I don't, but they know way better than I do to decide...
Still, no other people not named Manny Pacquiao achieved that, even with the easiest path possible (fight the weakest champs/#1 contenders for vacancies in every division and using catchweights without skipping divisions)...Comment
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Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time -Bert SugarOriginally posted by pasawayako View Post
There are thousands of ''one of the greatest''
The ''one of the greatest'' compliment is practically ordinary.
Unless names can go with it
You're trying hard to convince yourselfComment
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Then why u r so butthurt that pac was in the conversation of the GREATEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME?Originally posted by Curtis Harper View PostPacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time -Bert Sugar
There are thousands of ''one of the greatest''
The ''one of the greatest'' compliment is practically ordinary.
Unless names can go with it
You're trying hard to convince yourselfComment
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Originally posted by thedarkdragon11 View Post
no, they weren't... can you give an example of that... ?
" old-timers "... did not need a lineal champion, because they had a real champion
tracking/recording lineage only became a factor (a REAL small one imo, because triangle theories do not work in boxing) when the championship became fragmented with the advent of the 2nd/3rd/4th sanctioning bodies... before the other ABC's were formed everyone knew who the REAL champ was, because there was only one title
nobody needed a lineal champ
and the lineal champ is often not the best in his division
names > nameless titles
The Ring had Canelo ranked the #1 middleweight and lineal "champion"... despite the fact that he had never weighed more than 155, and despite the fact that he had never faced a middleweight opponent
Canelo never fought an actual middleweight opponent for nearly 2 full years after The Ring named him champ
all because of lineage
at the SAME time... The Ring had Stevenson ranked the #1 LHW over Kovalev... because of lineage
just names... not nameless achievementsComment
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just names... not nameless achievements
and not just lineal.... same with other " titles "
David Diaz... wtf ?
I KNOW, I KNOW... Floyd has a couple of those " titles "
as do others... especially in more recent era's
that is why..... just names... not nameless achievementsComment
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