Why did AJ not get extra time in NY?

[bigjavi973]

You count from the moment he gets up from the first KD to the moment he gets puts on his ass again. So the second KD happened 1:20 with change later, my mistake.

So in the previous post you said Joshua survived 2 minutes of onslaught and now you're saying 'it's not like ruiz was pummeling him the entire time'... make up your mind

No, Ruiz most definitely was NOT hurt, not in round 3 or at any point of the fight for that matter. His KD was a flash KD, Joshua's were not. He got up right away and put Joshua on his ass 10 seconds later and was in control of the fight ever since

so he was hurt only AFTER getting up from the kd?

now ive heard it all!


how was ruiz not hurt? He even said it himself

ya dont need to make stuff up


and we are not talking about the rest of the fight

just what happened in round 3 towars the end of it etc

"and was in control of the fight ever since"




and thats what Im saying.... ortiz was pummeling wilder all the way till the bell rang....

that did NOT happen in the ruiz aj fight in the 3rd round


hence the 2 different scenarios that im explaining.

[bigjavi973]

What does that has to do with the doctor checking him or Ruiz over AFTER the bell has rang for the 4th round like they did for Wilder?

because they didnt sustain the amount of punishment wilder got at the moment

so lets try it again:

this was the 2nd kd in the last 10 seconds of the round.



BTW in a round where he kd ruiz, ruiz kd back right away... and for the rest of the 2 mins where boxing it out... hardly a "beat down" the way ortiz gave wilder for almost a whole minute




now in the wilder-ortiz fight when ortiz clocked him wilder literally only threw about 5 or 7 punches back for that entire time.. meanwhile ortiz landed more than 20 punches while wilder was hurt and staggering all over the place.

[Ray*]

No? The doctor didn’t examine the fighter at the beginning of the round in those fights? How is it different than the wilder fight other than the fighters?

And why wasn’t done in the Ruiz/Joshua fight?

[Ray*]

because they didnt sustain the amount of punishment wilder got at the moment

so lets try it again:

this was the 2nd kd in the last 10 seconds of the round.



BTW in a round where he kd ruiz, ruiz kd back right away... and for the rest of the 2 mins where boxing it out... hardly a "beat down" the way ortiz gave wilder for almost a whole minute




now in the wilder-ortiz fight when ortiz clocked him wilder literally only threw about 5 or 7 punches back for that entire time.. meanwhile ortiz landed more than 20 punches while wilder was hurt and staggering all over the place.

Sorry that’s not a good excuse, again let’s try this again. You went and check on a fighter that walked back to his corner on his own accord, a bit wobbly.

But you would not check on the ones that were KD and one who was badly hurt? Ok mate...

[Szef]

so he was hurt only AFTER getting up from the kd?

now ive heard it all!


how was ruiz not hurt? He even said it himself

ya dont need to make stuff up


and we are not talking about the rest of the fight

just what happened in round 3 towars the end of it etc

"and was in control of the fight ever since"




and thats what Im saying.... ortiz was pummeling wilder all the way till the bell rang....

that did NOT happen in the ruiz aj fight in the 3rd round


hence the 2 different scenarios that im explaining.

All right this is getting boring now so this will be my final reply

I have no idea what you're talking about in the first paragraph

Nothing about Andy's body language after the KD made me think he was hurt. Joshua stunned him with that left hook, and it might as well have been the hardest punch Andy ever took so maybe he was a little bit shocked but hurt? Nah. He got up momentarily and fvvcked Joshua up.

He was in control from the first KD onwards so whether we're talking about round 3 or the rest of the fight doesn't matter

Joshua was on jelly legs after the first kd and was clinching for his dear life, and wasn't punching back which we know from his past fights is an indicator of him being hurt

The bottom line is, both Wilder and Joshua were hurt but only one of them got checked by a doc and it wasn't the one who got kd twice which is a clear sign of Favouritism

[_Rexy_]

And why wasn’t done in the Ruiz/Joshua fight?

I gave my opinion on that earlier as well. We are going in circles.

[_Rexy_]

That’s what happens when you do something dodgy. When you lie, you then have to cover that lie up with another lie. Maybe you don’t get it but what happened between that 7th round was shady as fuck. The excuses that I have seen since that fight is laughable. So yes am holding them to that standards, the doctor basically went in to buy Wilder more time. We all need to accept that and move on, trying to make excuses for why it happen or didn’t happen in certain fights is just trolling.

The Beterbiev fight where if happened (twice) was a top rank event. Why would top rank cover for PBC? Just to topple Matchroom?

[Alan Smithee]

Why did Joshua not get extra recovery time Wilder got which we were all told is within the rules when fighting in NY? The rule, which seems like a joke rule to me, was brought in to action for Deontay Wilder but not for Joshua.

That rule needs taking out of the New York play book as it is nothing more than a tool to protect American fighters from losing. If any fighter needed looking at by a ring side doctor it was Anthony Joshua, he seemed concussed. Wilder was just getting battered like in most normal fights.

We cant have these Americans having one rule for their own and one for everybody else. And American want to cry about not wanting to fight in the UK? Im not surprised, there is much less chance they will get away with PEDDING in the UK and there is much less chance of a robbery.

Da "not so neutral" where do you come up with this nonsense? The "welfare check" is applied to all fighters not just U.S or N.Y boxers. Chris Arreola was looked at by a physician before the start of one of the rounds in his fight with Kownacki. Sadly there were a few tragedies in N.Y including Beethaeven Scottland and Magomed Abdusalamov so Dr. Barry Jordan who is the Chief Medical Officer for the New York State Athletic Commission implemented some rules for referees and ringside physicians which apply to every fighter. Just because there are corrupt hypocrites in the U.K does not mean that this is a worldwide epidemic. Posters like you are shills for that type of behavior. The Dillian Whyte travesty happened in the U.K and that type of nonsense is only accepted and welcomed there.

[bigjavi973]

Sorry that’s not a good excuse, again let’s try this again. You went and check on a fighter that walked back to his corner on his own accord, a bit wobbly.

But you would not check on the ones that were KD and one who was badly hurt? Ok mate...

You say wilder:

a bit wobbly.

even after receiving about 20 punches from ortiz in that round (yes the videos are time stamped)


you say about AJ: (who had more than 1 min in between kds and ruiz was not pummeling him like ortiz was doing to wilder)

one who was badly hurt?

and then you finish it with:

Ok mate

and we are expected not to think you are biased?


and again... badly hurt is your opinion. He got up after the 2nd kd took a HUGE breath and put his hands up... if he was "hurt" like you said he wouldn't be able to do all that as quickly as he did

[Alan Smithee]

And why wasn’t done in the Ruiz/Joshua fight?

Are you implying that a physician was never in Joshua's corner checking on him? I highly doubt that but I will gladly rewatch the robot getting his arse handed to him.