Pacquiao is the greatest - Joel Diaz
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"Thank you!. The reason is Manny fans like to brag about things with no context.
When comparing ATGs you have to take into account every detail.
Can't just say he a 7 division champ and ignore the quality of opponents.
Can't just bring up the guys he beat then ignore if they were prime, coming off a loss, or a catch weight.
Can't just say he fought longer
Then ignore the matchmaking and quality of opponents that allowed it to happen.
These details matter when comparing fighters from different eras ."Comment
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Totally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.
Facts:
One and only
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
Oldest ww champion
Youngest ww lineal champion
Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion
Those are all undeniable facts.Comment
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Agree with everything you just said. Pac has the quality wins that's why so many great boxers and knowledgeable people in boxing considered pac as the greatest."Thank you!. The reason is Manny fans like to brag about things with no context.
When comparing ATGs you have to take into account every detail.
Can't just say he a 7 division champ and ignore the quality of opponents.
Can't just bring up the guys he beat then ignore if they were prime, coming off a loss, or a catch weight.
Can't just say he fought longer
Then ignore the matchmaking and quality of opponents that allowed it to happen.
These details matter when comparing fighters from different eras ."Comment
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Totally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.
Facts:
One and only
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
Oldest ww champion
Youngest ww lineal champion
Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion
Those are all undeniable facts.
Okay..... Those things rank Manny very high on any list.... U are a hater to say otherwise. Manny is one of the greatest and him doing things like beating Thurman at late age is ranking him even higher.
But..... And this why you call me a hater..... Once we compare ATG fighters we have to take into account every detail of those accomplishments!
Who did he beat to become champion all of those times???
How many ATG fighters did he beat???
How many ATG fighters in their prime did he beat???
How did he beat those ATG fighters in their prime???
Were those champions he beat the best in the division?
Were they coming off losses or at catch weights or any other astericks involved???
These things I brought up is the same reasons I could never rank Floyd too high either.
Think about it how is any different than TBE fans using his accomplishment of being undefeated and consequective championship fights rank him higher than other ATGs.
By your logic that makes me a hater of Manny and Floyd.
But context matters since we comparing.
Who did Floyd beat???
How many were ATG?
How many were ATG in their prime???
Were they at catch weights? Were they past prime? How did he beat them?
If your biased just say it..... Then I would give u a pass and wouldn't argue u down.
Example.... The only fighter I'm biased towards is Sugar Ray Robinson.
It doesn't matter what someone says what facts they bring up... I don't care... He is the greatest P4P.
Now do u get where I'm coming from???Last edited by KillaMane26; 09-18-2020, 06:33 AM.Comment
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So think about all the other boxing aficionados that don’t agree , I take it all their opinions don’t count just Joel’s? What a right twat you are?Comment
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Fact he has a L on his record to Bradley And Jeff Horn, fact after he was Ko’ed by Marquez he was fast asleep for atleast 15 seconds and you had your face in your aunties armpits because you didn’t want to watchTotally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.
Facts:
One and only
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
Oldest ww champion
Youngest ww lineal champion
Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion
Those are all undeniable facts.Comment
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He keep bringing up these things and leaving out the details behind them.
Then call u a hater for bringing up said detail.
BTW making a thread everytime someone gives your fighters praise is this definition of insecurity. Lol.
"Hey guys..... Guess who else agrees with my opinion".Comment
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Yes that are all facts and thank you for agreeing to all the facts that i listed.
One and only
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
Oldest ww champion
Youngest lineal flyweight champion
Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion.Comment
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