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  • pasawayako
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    #171
    Originally posted by KillaMane26
    I'm convinced he is Soytiet "123" lmao....Why even take him serious


    https://instagram.com/soytiet?igshid=y1qpxgcnlfa4
    No one takes you seriously when it comes to pac, your hate towards pac is overflowing.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #172
      Originally posted by pasawayako
      No one takes you seriously when it comes to pac, your hate towards pac is overflowing.
      Lmao!!!!!!

      Sorry for using facts instead of emotions when judging fighters.

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      • KillaMane26
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        #173
        Originally posted by pasawayako
        No one takes you seriously when it comes to pac, your hate towards pac is overflowing.
        "Thank you!. The reason is Manny fans like to brag about things with no context.

        When comparing ATGs you have to take into account every detail.

        Can't just say he a 7 division champ and ignore the quality of opponents.

        Can't just bring up the guys he beat then ignore if they were prime, coming off a loss, or a catch weight.

        Can't just say he fought longer
        Then ignore the matchmaking and quality of opponents that allowed it to happen.

        These details matter when comparing fighters from different eras ."

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        • pasawayako
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          #174
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          Lmao!!!!!!

          Sorry for using facts instead of emotions when judging fighters.
          Totally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.

          Facts:

          One and only


          8 division champion
          5 division lineal champion
          4 decade champion
          Oldest ww champion
          Youngest ww lineal champion
          Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion

          Those are all undeniable facts.

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          • pasawayako
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            #175
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            "Thank you!. The reason is Manny fans like to brag about things with no context.

            When comparing ATGs you have to take into account every detail.

            Can't just say he a 7 division champ and ignore the quality of opponents.

            Can't just bring up the guys he beat then ignore if they were prime, coming off a loss, or a catch weight.

            Can't just say he fought longer
            Then ignore the matchmaking and quality of opponents that allowed it to happen.

            These details matter when comparing fighters from different eras ."
            Agree with everything you just said. Pac has the quality wins that's why so many great boxers and knowledgeable people in boxing considered pac as the greatest.

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            • KillaMane26
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              #176
              Originally posted by pasawayako
              Totally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.

              Facts:

              One and only


              8 division champion
              5 division lineal champion
              4 decade champion
              Oldest ww champion
              Youngest ww lineal champion
              Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion

              Those are all undeniable facts.

              Okay..... Those things rank Manny very high on any list.... U are a hater to say otherwise. Manny is one of the greatest and him doing things like beating Thurman at late age is ranking him even higher.

              But..... And this why you call me a hater..... Once we compare ATG fighters we have to take into account every detail of those accomplishments!

              Who did he beat to become champion all of those times???
              How many ATG fighters did he beat???
              How many ATG fighters in their prime did he beat???
              How did he beat those ATG fighters in their prime???
              Were those champions he beat the best in the division?
              Were they coming off losses or at catch weights or any other astericks involved???

              These things I brought up is the same reasons I could never rank Floyd too high either.
              Think about it how is any different than TBE fans using his accomplishment of being undefeated and consequective championship fights rank him higher than other ATGs.

              By your logic that makes me a hater of Manny and Floyd.

              But context matters since we comparing.

              Who did Floyd beat???
              How many were ATG?
              How many were ATG in their prime???
              Were they at catch weights? Were they past prime? How did he beat them?

              If your biased just say it..... Then I would give u a pass and wouldn't argue u down.
              Example.... The only fighter I'm biased towards is Sugar Ray Robinson.
              It doesn't matter what someone says what facts they bring up... I don't care... He is the greatest P4P.





              Now do u get where I'm coming from???
              Last edited by KillaMane26; 09-18-2020, 06:33 AM.

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              • Noelanthony
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                #177
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                Will joel diaz isn't a worthless person like u and his opinion is 10000000000xxx more credible than every poster of boxing scene combined.
                So think about all the other boxing aficionados that don’t agree , I take it all their opinions don’t count just Joel’s? What a right twat you are?

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Totally agree that facts is more important in judging a fighter.

                  Facts:

                  One and only


                  8 division champion
                  5 division lineal champion
                  4 decade champion
                  Oldest ww champion
                  Youngest ww lineal champion
                  Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion

                  Those are all undeniable facts.
                  Fact he has a L on his record to Bradley And Jeff Horn, fact after he was Ko’ed by Marquez he was fast asleep for atleast 15 seconds and you had your face in your aunties armpits because you didn’t want to watch

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    Fact he has a L on his record to Bradley And Jeff Horn, fact after he was Ko’ed by Marquez he was fast asleep for atleast 15 seconds and you had your face in your aunties armpits because you didn’t want to watch
                    He keep bringing up these things and leaving out the details behind them.

                    Then call u a hater for bringing up said detail.

                    BTW making a thread everytime someone gives your fighters praise is this definition of insecurity. Lol.

                    "Hey guys..... Guess who else agrees with my opinion".

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                    • pasawayako
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      Fact he has a L on his record to Bradley And Jeff Horn, fact after he was Ko’ed by Marquez he was fast asleep for atleast 15 seconds and you had your face in your aunties armpits because you didn’t want to watch
                      Yes that are all facts and thank you for agreeing to all the facts that i listed.

                      One and only

                      8 division champion
                      5 division lineal champion
                      4 decade champion
                      Oldest ww champion
                      Youngest lineal flyweight champion
                      Flyweight champion upto jr middleweight champion.

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