Comments Thread For: Warren: Dubois Has a Long Way To Go - But He's The Real Deal

[Eff Pandas]

No need to rush him like they did with AJ. He's not ready yet.

I don't think thats rushing him.

Hes almost 22. Hes been boxing just under 2.5 years. So he'll be 24 in two more years. I think thats a fine age to start fighting top ten guys. Then take a year & a half or two of fighting top 10 to top 30 guys in 5 or 7 fights. Then see whats up for a title at 25ish, 26ish give or take.

Assuming he keeps winning of course.

He'd probably be around 27-0, 28-0 when he's lined up for a title shot in 2023 if things were to go right which isn't just around the corner or anything.

[BangEM]

I don't think thats rushing him.

Hes almost 22. Hes been boxing just under 2.5 years. So he'll be 24 in two more years. I think thats a fine age to start fighting top ten guys. Then take a year & a half or two of fighting top 10 to top 30 guys in 5 or 7 fights. Then see whats up for a title at 25ish, 26ish give or take.

Assuming he keeps winning of course.

He'd probably be around 27-0, 28-0 when he's lined up for a title shot in 2023 if things were to go right which isn't just around the corner or anything.

It’s not always about age - it’s about of fights he has under his belt since he didn’t really have amateur career.

The UK is different from the US where Champions can have a belt and keep fighting tomato cans. Once he becomes a champion, the pressure on him is going to be enormous and they’re going to expect to keep smashing every opponent to bits and sparking them out. The young lad needs to take his time and keep improving.

[Eff Pandas]

It’s not always about age - it’s about of fights he has under his belt since he didn’t really have amateur career.

Wut. Dude's been training since he was like 5 or 6 & had 70 something amateur fights.

[BangEM]

Wut. Dude's been training since he was like 5 or 6 & had 70 something amateur fights.

He only spent a year in senior ABA and less than a year in the elite setting with Team GB. So he definitely didn’t get that much experience.

[Eff Pandas]

He only spent a year in senior ABA and less than a year in the elite setting with Team GB. So he definitely didn’t get that much experience.

Thats the same for anyone who turned pro young doe. Tyson. Tank. Vargas. And there has gotta be about 8 or 9 prospects we're talking about these days a lot that have less than a year if any senior level amateur experience & I highly doubt they'll be on some longer than 6 year plan to a title fight like I'm suggesting for DDD.

[Ray*]

I saw a YouTube compilation of Warren criticism of Anthony Joshua in his 10th fight. Now DDD actually doesn’t need to rush anything, but if I go by his promoter’s words 4/5 years ago then I would expect him to put DDD in with higher contenders now.

[BangEM]

Thats the same for anyone who turned pro young doe. Tyson. Tank. Vargas. And there has gotta be about 8 or 9 prospects we're talking about these days a lot that have less than a year if any senior level amateur experience & I highly doubt they'll be on some longer than 6 year plan to a title fight like I'm suggesting for DDD.

A lot of those guys spent more time at the senior/elite amateur level. Dubois only spent a year there.

Mike Tyson for example was your American equivalent that’s the golden gloves level for like 3 yrs before turning pro.

[Eff Pandas]

A lot of those guys spent more time at the senior/elite amateur level. Dubois only spent a year there.

Mike Tyson for example was your American equivalent that’s the golden gloves level for like 3 yrs before turning pro.

I just don't think its gonna make DDD's journey to a title shot THAT long nor should it. 6 years is a fair amount of time to learn the pro game. I mean ffs Wilder had less fights, has less natural ability & wasn't even fighting guys a third as good as Gorman 2 years into his career & it only took Wilder 6 years to go from debut to a title.

Now granted I will say if the title is unified by the time DDD gets into contention I wouldn't begrudge him taking an extra fight or two & maybe another year to take a shot at the big guy at that point, but if its the standard status quo & there is a loose belt or two then I think 6 years is ideal for a younger cat with skills like DDD.

[BangEM]

Thats the same for anyone who turned pro young doe. Tyson. Tank. Vargas. And there has gotta be about 8 or 9 prospects we're talking about these days a lot that have less than a year if any senior level amateur experience & I highly doubt they'll be on some longer than 6 year plan to a title fight like I'm suggesting for DDD.

I don't think thats rushing him.

Hes almost 22. Hes been boxing just under 2.5 years. So he'll be 24 in two more years. I think thats a fine age to start fighting top ten guys. Then take a year & a half or two of fighting top 10 to top 30 guys in 5 or 7 fights. Then see whats up for a title at 25ish, 26ish give or take.

Assuming he keeps winning of course.

He'd probably be around 27-0, 28-0 when he's lined up for a title shot in 2023 if things were to go right which isn't just around the corner or anything.

That’s if he can fight 4-5 times a year but I doubt he’s going to move at that pace. He’ll most likely fight 3 times this year.

He need to let the top guys from this era beat another up and be the face of the next era. Wilder, Fury and AJ should retire for good in the next 3-4 years. After that, he can fight to clean up the division.

[Eff Pandas]

That’s if he can fight 4-5 times a year but I doubt he’s going to move at that pace. He’ll most likely fight 3 times this year.

He need to let the top guys from this era beat another up and be the face of the next era. Wilder, Fury and AJ should retire for good in the next 3-4 years. After that, he can fight to clean up the division.

You mean 2020. Cuz his 4th fight of the year is at the end of September.

And I was thinking 7 fights over the next two years & 7 fights over the following two years to get him to 27 fights which I think is good activity while not being overly active.

I think Wilder & Joshua are solid bets to be gone in 4 years, but I suspect Fury & DDD will fight eventually cuz Fury is gonna fight til he's 38 or older I'd bet. I'm pretty confident Fury will be the last guy around of the main 3 or 4 if you count Ruiz.