Boxers who aren't doping

[saintpat]

everyone dopes

No they don’t.

For every contender and champion there are tons of club fighters and journeymen who have no incentive to do this — it would be wasted money.

Go to a club show sometime where the headliner might be an 8-3 guy against a 6-4 guy (and the rest of the card may be like 2-3 vs. 6-7, or even an undercard where the 11-0 prospect is fighting someone who is 4-12 ... out of those at most the 11-0 guy is possibly doping.

[Larry the boss]

Wanheng Menayothin and Knockout CP Freshmart.

It’s hard to imagine someone could be on PEDs and weigh 105 pounds.

There are several different types of PED'S like EPO which has 0 to do with weight or muscle gain...Hell some PED'S allow a man to make a certain weight

[Boxing_1013]

"Everyone is on steroids"

-Nate Diaz

Lol right...that quote pops into my head everything I think about athletes and PED use

[Boxing_1013]

There are several different types of PED'S like EPO which has 0 to do with weight or muscle gain...Hell some PED'S allow a man to make a certain weight

Good point/post....

[Boxing_1013]

I figured it was basically known that probably every top level professional fighter is on something.

I guess in that case...the ability to get away with it for so many of them is astounding, if not impressive...but in general I agree that PED usage is probably widespread

No they don’t.

For every contender and champion there are tons of club fighters and journeymen who have no incentive to do this — it would be wasted money.

Go to a club show sometime where the headliner might be an 8-3 guy against a 6-4 guy (and the rest of the card may be like 2-3 vs. 6-7, or even an undercard where the 11-0 prospect is fighting someone who is 4-12 ... out of those at most the 11-0 guy is possibly doping.

Idk man...walking around my local gym I would imagine a high percentage of average Joes are taking some type of supplement(s) and would be bordering on taking illegal if not outright illegal ones.

I agree that it probably isn't as widespread amongst the lower level guys, because they don't really have the means as you suggest...but guys at that level have even more of a motive sometimes to actually dope, since they want to actually get to that top level.

[Marchegiano]

The losers?

[DuckAdonis]

Lomachenko

Too much integrity

[Boxing_1013]

The losers?

Lol right

Lomachenko

Too much integrity

I would say he would be one of the least likely imo as well

[mcdonalds]

Lomachenko

Too much integrity

Bro, he's a commie. They all dope over there

[ruedboy]

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
For confidence in a drug testing agency, there has to be complete autonomy from the fighter, the alphabets and the state commissions, who all have a vested interest in the results.
Imagine MLB's Mike Trout having a personal contract with USADA, the way FM did. It's ***in laughable.
Until there's a credible person as Boxing Czar, who has final authority, all drug testing just isn't credible (and that's not even going into the science of beating the tests.)