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  • #91
    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    Why does it matter where they fight? Crawford got a stoppage, why couldn't Manny?

    If you're so worried about bias decisions take matters into your own hands. Surely the #1 Welterweight can do that. Anything else is an excuse.
    Because he's an old arse fighter and, unlike Crawford, a very small WW. Pacquiao is not the #1 WW (hasn't been in quite a while), so why should anyone expect current Pacquiao to be at Crawford's level?

    There's no point in doing a rematch where you were just robbed, ESPECIALLY when you are the A-side. If you wanna label that as an excuse, fine.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by fernandtg View Post
      Pacquiao is not the #1 WW (hasn't been in quite a while)
      Pacquiao just beat a titleholder that was undefeated and ranked at the top (until he went out on injury and Jeff Horn took over), a guy who was fresh off beating both Garcia and Porter. Yes, he's up there.

      I'm not talking people's mythical 'eye test'. I'm talking RESUME. You know, that thing Crawford doesn't have at 147 and Spence barely has?

      Based on RESUME and WHO HE'S BEAT, Manny is at the top right now in welter. Period.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by fernandtg View Post
        Because he's an old arse fighter and, unlike Crawford, a very small WW. Pacquiao is not the #1 WW (hasn't been in quite a while), so why should anyone expect current Pacquiao to be at Crawford's level?

        There's no point in doing a rematch where you were just robbed, ESPECIALLY when you are the A-side. If you wanna label that as an excuse, fine.
        Excuses, excuses, excuses. Fact is Horn manhandled Packy who wimped out LOL. That's why Packy doesn't want a rematch, scared.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Richard G View Post
          Excuses, excuses, excuses. Fact is Horn manhandled Packy who wimped out LOL. That's why Packy doesn't want a rematch, scared.
          Yes, over 90% of fighters, coaches and boxing analysts had it wrong by calling it a robbery. You, on the other hand, are right.

          Bradley and Horn clearly beat Pacquiao. I can't believe he robbed Timmy on their 2nd and 3rd fights.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by fernandtg View Post
            Yes, over 90% of fighters, coaches and boxing analysts had it wrong by calling it a robbery. You, on the other hand, are right.

            Bradley and Horn clearly beat Pacquiao. I can't believe he robbed Timmy on their 2nd and 3rd fights.
            Wishful thinking just like your 90%. Those who count gave Horn the win, mainly I suspect because Manny ran away.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Richard G View Post
              Wishful thinking just like your 90%. Those who count gave Horn the win, mainly I suspect because Manny ran away.
              Wishful? You sure?

              Those who count gave him the win on Brisbane, hence Pacquiao's refusal to fight over there again.

              Other than that, why would you even think that a guy who just fought Thurman and stated that he's interested in unifying with Spence is scared of Horn? Do you even realize how absurd that sounds?

              Most people that want to see a Horn rematch are the ones that ***** on him for wanting the Floyd rematch (I ***** on both). Hating at its finest.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by fernandtg View Post
                Wishful? You sure?

                Those who count gave him the win on Brisbane, hence Pacquiao's refusal to fight over there again.

                Other than that, why would you even think that a guy who just fought Thurman and stated that he's interested in unifying with Spence is scared of Horn? Do you even realize how absurd that sounds?

                Most people that want to see a Horn rematch are the ones that ***** on him for wanting the Floyd rematch (I ***** on both). Hating at its finest.
                Hating at it's finest? The real hate comes from twisted freaky pactrads who can't accept that their god can legitimately lose a fight. I admire Packy's boxing ability but he does duck, a lot, and for that he can expect criticism. Just like any other boxer who does the same.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Richard G View Post
                  Hating at it's finest? The real hate comes from twisted freaky pactrads who can't accept that their god can legitimately lose a fight. I admire Packy's boxing ability but he does duck, a lot, and for that he can expect criticism. Just like any other boxer who does the same.
                  Richard Gay.
                  That’s your name.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Richard G View Post
                    Hating at it's finest? The real hate comes from twisted freaky pactrads who can't accept that their god can legitimately lose a fight. I admire Packy's boxing ability but he does duck, a lot, and for that he can expect criticism. Just like any other boxer who does the same.
                    So you just chose to reply to my last sentence? Talk about ducking.

                    Why is it reasonable to rematch Horn (in Australia, to boot) but not Floyd? In terms of legacy AND money, the Floyd rematch makes much more sense.

                    Regarding your ducking claim, he "ducked" Horn to fight Lucas (for a belt), Broner (****** fight, yet sells) and Thurman (undefeated titleholder). In what way, shape or form does that 3 fight run imply that he's ducking Horn? What belt does Horn have that Pacquiao should rematch him in Brisbane? What's his current WW ranking? Do tell.

                    He's a 40 year old fighter who's been in countless slugfests since the beginnings of his career, where he has sustained plenty of damage. If you think his resume is indicative of a safety first ducker, then good for you, but I'll have to side with the rest of the world and disagree on that one.

                    I'm not even a fan of his, but nice try mister.

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                    • Originally posted by fernandtg View Post
                      So you just chose to reply to my last sentence? Talk about ducking.

                      Why is it reasonable to rematch Horn (in Australia, to boot) but not Floyd? In terms of legacy AND money, the Floyd rematch makes much more sense.

                      Regarding your ducking claim, he "ducked" Horn to fight Lucas (for a belt), Broner (****** fight, yet sells) and Thurman (undefeated titleholder). In what way, shape or form does that 3 fight run imply that he's ducking Horn? What belt does Horn have that Pacquiao should rematch him in Brisbane? What's his current WW ranking? Do tell.

                      He's a 40 year old fighter who's been in countless slugfests since the beginnings of his career, where he has sustained plenty of damage. If you think his resume is indicative of a safety first ducker, then good for you, but I'll have to side with the rest of the world and disagree on that one.

                      I'm not even a fan of his, but nice try mister.
                      We all know that there is never going to be a rematch with Horn for lots of reasons, I for one would not like to see it mainly because he has moved up in weight and to come back down would not be good for him. He has a win against Packy so it should be left at that.

                      His trainer is just stirring shoot for publicity, well I hope so.

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