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Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View PostDon't start with this intellectually dishonest bull****. Loma was plenty experienced when he fought Salido. He had no problems fighting Gary Russell Jr. a few months later. The Salido fight was just a cherry pick that blew up in Bob's face. Loma just couldn't handle that Mexican style.
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Originally posted by cally83 View PostSalido stated that he feels Lomachenko is in fact a very average fighter. Salido said that Lomachenko "can't take it to the body, once you start hitting him there, he slows down, and the only great thing about him is his elite work rate." Referee Laurence Cole added, "It just seemed that every time Salido worked the body, Lomachenko was weakened by it, it was the difference in the fight.
Said many times before and will say again - learning how to fight 12 rounds isn't easy. Kermit Cintron recently said in an interview that going from 6 rounds to 8 round fights is difficult enough - Loma went straight to 12 and didn't know how to pace himself - somethign he corrected really quickly.
So lts all pretend that Loma is the same fighter who fought Salido and didn't know how to pace himself for 12 rounds. Visions of Homer Simpson thumping himslef on the forehead with an almight Doh !
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Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View PostYet he's done more in fourteen fights than they did in thirty. Rigo, Walters, Martinez, Russell, Linares and Pedraza are all established champions. Hopkins beat A LOT of so-so guys in his middleweight reign. You wouldn't recognize half of them. Manny beat several journey men on his way to the top as well. Loma cut through all that and fought champions from the beginning. You don't like him. We get that, but you don't have a valid argument here. Much better fighters? Yeah, over the long haul, but how is Loma's resume so awful? And Pac and B-Hop are nearly done. Loma may be fighting for another ten years. He'll definitely be around another five imo. In that time, I'm sure he'll face plenty more champions since that seems to be all he fights. You guys get up here and call him out on Salido five years after the fact when he's beaten one champion after another. To be honest, I wouldn't care if he lost to Salido twice and other guys before going on the streak he's on. This protecting the "0" bull**** is a modern obsession. And Salido was an established champion as well. I understand if you don't like Loma's fanboys or whatever, but he's done more than enough to establish himself as a top fighter. And I'm not saying Loma is better than them. He hasn't proven as much as them yet without question but he's also been pro for six years. They've both been in for more than twenty. Takes time. Hell, give the man a chance.
and THIS....
Originally posted by angkag View PostThis post is actually quite funny - 'every time Salido worked the body, Lomachenko was weakened'. In the fight, Cole was unable to differentiate Lomachenko's balls from his body, so can actually read this as 'every time Salido worked the balls, Loamachenko was weakened'. Yup - about sums it up.
Said many times before and will say again - learning how to fight 12 rounds isn't easy. Kermit Cintron recently said in an interview that going from 6 rounds to 8 round fights is difficult enough - Loma went straight to 12 and didn't know how to pace himself - somethign he corrected really quickly.
So lts all pretend that Loma is the same fighter who fought Salido and didn't know how to pace himself for 12 rounds. Visions of Homer Simpson thumping himslef on the forehead with an almight Doh !
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Originally posted by angkag View PostThis post is actually quite funny - 'every time Salido worked the body, Lomachenko was weakened'. In the fight, Cole was unable to differentiate Lomachenko's balls from his body, so can actually read this as 'every time Salido worked the balls, Loamachenko was weakened'. Yup - about sums it up.
Said many times before and will say again - learning how to fight 12 rounds isn't easy. Kermit Cintron recently said in an interview that going from 6 rounds to 8 round fights is difficult enough - Loma went straight to 12 and didn't know how to pace himself - somethign he corrected really quickly.
So lts all pretend that Loma is the same fighter who fought Salido and didn't know how to pace himself for 12 rounds. Visions of Homer Simpson thumping himslef on the forehead with an almight Doh !
Hard to knock a man for being weakened when hit to the stones. Orlando "Below the Belt" Salido struck hard and often since Lawrence "Glaucoma" Cole never called him out.
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Originally posted by CauliflowerEars View PostSpot on and well said.
The tardship as you call it, is baffling at times. There is obviously an agenda responsible for the lack of objectivity, when it comes to Lomachenko.
Any objective observer familiar with boxing, can discern the true context of the Salido fight. Not only facing a title holder in only his second professional bout, but all the context surrounding the loss. Salido coming in overweight, yet Loma still taking the fight. One judge scoring the fight for Loma. The refereeing.
In the end, I believe Lomachenko and the inexperience of his whole team, cost him that fight. It's not even about there being a "formula" to beat Loma, that "only Salido knows". IMO, if they fought 100X, Saldio wins the first one and Loma wins the next 99. Many all-time greats have losses on their record, hard losses at that. Not a, by-the-skin-of-your-teeth loss, against a belt holder in just your second career fight.Insane.
Any fighter is beatable, but this notion that Loma is already on the decline is absurd. He just knocked out Crolla !
All Crolla is saying, is he got an up close and personal idea of what kind of fighter Loma is in 2019, one extremely difficult to beat.
Loma even said that he is willing to take on basically ANY terms to fight Davis. Crickets in response..
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postnah, it's a lame ass username. I didn't discredit Loma, I also like Rigo. But I was merely making a point that nobody is unbeatable. It's boxing, and Loma has already lost... So it's not unreasonable to think that it may happen again.
It's lazy and very bland. Sorry, bro. And if you think Salido had a legitimate win over Lomachenko then you have an issue.
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Originally posted by angkag View PostThis post is actually quite funny - 'every time Salido worked the body, Lomachenko was weakened'. In the fight, Cole was unable to differentiate Lomachenko's balls from his body, so can actually read this as 'every time Salido worked the balls, Loamachenko was weakened'. Yup - about sums it up.
Said many times before and will say again - learning how to fight 12 rounds isn't easy. Kermit Cintron recently said in an interview that going from 6 rounds to 8 round fights is difficult enough - Loma went straight to 12 and didn't know how to pace himself - somethign he corrected really quickly.
So lts all pretend that Loma is the same fighter who fought Salido and didn't know how to pace himself for 12 rounds. Visions of Homer Simpson thumping himslef on the forehead with an almight Doh !
BUT... They didn't care about all that. But, that's how it works. They were probably very confident it wouldn't matter and to be honest, if nut shots weren't in order it may not have. He almost stopped him in the 12th round.
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Originally posted by Lomadeaux View PostLomadeaux is more creative than Jab jab Boob. Especially the fact that the second and third word in your user name is lower cased.
It's lazy and very bland. Sorry, bro. And if you think Salido had a legitimate win over Lomachenko then you have an issue.
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