Should Pacquiao insist on rehydration clause if Spence fight is made?

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #81
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Depends who is doing it, weight is an individual thing you cant throw blankets like that, it shows you dont understand weight in boxing.



    So you want to allow Manny to do another weight manipulation rort, add them up its like 10 times he has forced weight one way or the other depends when it suits.
    I understand weight more than you. I was a boxing coach for the better part of two decades. Coming down five weight classes is not the same as two. Simple math and physics.

    Pushing for rehydration clauses is not manipulation. Floyd did his share of weight manipulation. Canelo is the king of weight manipulation.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
      Dude this is sad. People make a thread to handicap Spence so they can see Manny beat him
      True. Thurman losses because he is inactive in the last 2 years. And he looks ***** Against Josesito Lopez. Both Crawford and Spence KO's that version of Thurman who fought Manny.

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      • Thraxox
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        #83
        Originally posted by RomanReigns
        True. Thurman losses because he is inactive in the last 2 years. And he looks ***** Against Josesito Lopez. Both Crawford and Spence KO's that version of Thurman who fought Manny.
        Until any guy actually does something, that's just a fantasy imagination where they wished Spence or Crawford was the guy who beat Thurman, but they let the 40 year old man get him first and did the job for them.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Thraxox
          Until any guy actually does something, that's just a fantasy imagination where they wished Spence or Crawford was the guy who beat Thurman, but they let the 40 year old man get him first and did the job for them.
          I thought Thurman won the fight because he out punched Manny in the 2nd half of the fight, but the first round KO and 10th round won it for Manny. I don't think Thurman would fight Spence and Crawford. He already cashed out in his last fight.

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          • killakali
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            #85
            Originally posted by Rip Chudd
            Nah man, your argument was just dumb. If Spence can make 147 and the 10 pound rehydration with the IBF then it doesn't matter what the heck he is a week before the weight in. The fact is he makes the weight
            you didn’t read my argument or lack basic comprehension skills. Larry said Errol Spence doesn’t have the weight of a middleweight 7 days out when it’s proven he does.

            He tried to compare that to Loma being a welter THIRTY days out. Big difference between 7 and 30 days.

            Loma fighting at 135 is equivalent of Spence at 160. Loma could still make 126 or 130 but he already won it nose belts and is daring to be great.

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              #86
              Originally posted by killakali
              you didn’t read my argument or lack basic comprehension skills. Larry said Errol Spence doesn’t have the weight of a middleweight 7 days out when it’s proven he does.

              He tried to compare that to Loma being a welter THIRTY days out. Big difference between 7 and 30 days.

              Loma fighting at 135 is equivalent of Spence at 160. Loma could still make 126 or 130 but he already won it nose belts and is daring to be great.
              Dude you're the one that brought up Spence being a middleweight 7 days out in response to Larry talking about Loma. Then I said it doesn't matter what he is a week before the weight in if he makes 147. Who the heck cares what Spence weighs 7 days before a weigh in if he makes 147? So what? I couldn't care less what fighters are walking around at if they make weight for whatever class they are fighting in, that's what matters.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                Dude you're the one that brought up Spence being a middleweight 7 days out in response to Larry talking about Loma. Then I said it doesn't matter what he is a week before the weight in if he makes 147. Who the heck cares what Spence weighs 7 days before a weigh in if he makes 147? So what? I couldn't care less what fighters are walking around at if they make weight for whatever class they are fighting in, that's what matters.
                For me it matters what they weigh when they are finally in the ring together. If one fighter blows up three, four or five weight classes upon entering the ring, that is wrong. Especially when they refuse to be weighed before the fight. That is downright suspect.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  For me it matters what they weigh when they are finally in the ring together. If one fighter blows up three, four or five weight classes upon entering the ring, that is wrong. Especially when they refuse to be weighed before the fight. That is downright suspect.
                  Who is blowing up 3-5 weight classes? Keep in mind we are talking about Spence here. Is it mandatory for fighters to step on fight night scales or is it just something networks like to do? Spence is holding the wrong title for someone who is supposed to be a weight bully. Especially considering the fact that he's never missed weight, you'd think draining himself as I've seen people say he's doing would have some kind of negative effect like we've seen time and time again with fighters

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                  • hectari
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    Spence easily walks around at 175+, maybe even 180+. Should Manny insist on a rehydration clause so Spence can’t inflate higher than say 157 or so?

                    I fully support rehydration clauses for all fights, and this one in particular would make sense for Manny.
                    He wont need to IBF belt which Spence owns has a rehydration clause no fighter can put on more than 10 pounds on the morning of the fight weigh ins. those are IBF rules.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      He wont need to IBF belt which Spence owns has a rehydration clause no fighter can put on more than 10 pounds on the morning of the fight weigh ins. those are IBF rules.
                      He actually wants a 10 pound rehydration limit....an hour before the fight L-O-L.

                      But anyways, if Spence is to beat Porter and face Pacquiao, it would be a unification bout and the IBF rules don't apply there. There will be no 10 pound rehydration clause unless Pacquiao forces it in negotiations.

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