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  • paulf
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    #11
    Would have been a very intense fight, but 2006 was peak Floyd. He moved around the ring like he was on a hoverboard, none of the standing out of a wide stance using his upper body movement to avoid shots like later in his career...and was so sharp.... Floyd would have ****ed Margarito's face up BAD. And even later in his career, look no further to how much Mayweather-Ortiz up to see how Floyd would have handles the come-strait-forward-with-his-gloves-up kinda thing.

    Floyd ~did~ avoid Margarito, though... he said so himself ("I told the whole world there was something wrong with Antonio Margarito"), but I can't see it going any way but UD12 Mayweather.

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      #12
      Slow AF Margs was going to beat Floyd? No. If Pac couldn't do it, no way was Margorito going to.

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        #13
        Originally posted by larryxxx..
        By Roberto Elmore: After Manny Pacquiao made easy work of Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the howls of “Floyd ducked both of these fighters” reemerged. Many of these claims have been opinionated and have not yet seen proof of these allegations. I did write an article stating that Mayweather side stepping Margarito was a good move. And financially it was back then. But upon my return to the article, I found facts that will support this article. Now, I know there will still be many who will contest these facts and continue with their barrage of name calling. But it’s not my job to control opinions; just give the facts and let the readers decide. But I want you to pay close attention to the quotes and who’s saying what.

        After Mayweather defeated Zab Judah, he was offered 8 million to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12th 2006. Leonard Ellerbe had this to say after the Judah fight.
        Floyd is not 100 percent healthy,” Ellerbe said. “He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It’s bruised, but it’s a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it”.


        “We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.

        Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

        Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

        Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.

        Source for the entire article: (Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito; author: Dan Rafael, it was updated on April 12th 2006)

        Face time: Mayweather had nothing to gain from fighting Margarito financially. There was no reward for this. There might have been a risk (but I can’t say what would have happened because it didn’t happen). Mayweather went on to fight the Carlos Baldomir for a dollar more 8,000,001, but he was the lineal welterweight champ. But Oscar had both risk and reward and we saw the results. Several people have fought and beat Margarito and their careers haven’t gone anywhere (Paul Williams, Shane Mosley). If anyone can provide me with a web sight, newspaper clipping, anything that has facts on it, I’m open to it. Peace.
        you still don't understand this after years and years of posting it. i would have fought him if you caved into my insane demands that no one in the world ever would have given me! 20 million guarantee for hoya...floyd himself knew this was laughable as he accepted a 10 millon guarantee when the fight happened so as you can clearly see he priced himself out on purpose to avoid the fight.

        anyway this was only one time he could have fought marg. the other times he was offered more but fought sharmba and zab instead.

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        • daggum
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          #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Easy work for Floyd. Margarito was too slow and plodding.

          Also Mayweather didn't duck Marg. Arum offered $8 million for that fight, Floyd bought out his Top Rank contract and fought Carlos Baldomir for $8 million + $1.
          floyd bought out of the contract for 750k so is 8 million and one dollar minus 750k more or less than 8 million?

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            #15
            Margarito is just too slow for Mayweather, he also is way too easy to hit. Also, back in 06 Mayweather was far more mobile than he was in the later of his career.

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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum
              floyd bought out of the contract for 750k so is 8 million and one dollar minus 750k more or less than 8 million?
              Arum wouldn't make the De La Hoya fight which Floyd got after leaving him.

              That turned Floyd into the biggest PPV draw in the sport. So add the money from that to your numbers.
              Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 08-02-2019, 09:02 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                Slow AF Margs was going to beat Floyd? No. If Pac couldn't do it, no way was Margorito going to.
                castillo and maidana are both slow and they gave him the toughest tests so i dont see your point. also pac did beat floyd as he landed the much cleaner shots in a boxing match but you were expecting pac to shoot laser bolts from his eyes or something and when that didnt happen you just assumed floyd was winning

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Arum wouldn't make the De La Hoya fight which Floyd got after leaving him.

                  So add the money from that to your numbers.
                  floyd wanted a 20 million guarantee when he was with TR. thats called pricing yourself out buddy. floyd took the hoya fight for a 10 million guarantee so...proof

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    floyd wanted a 20 million guarantee when he was with TR. thats called pricing yourself out buddy. floyd took the hoya fight for a 10 million guarantee so...proof
                    So you're arguing that Floyd would have made more money in his career if he had stayed with Top Rank instead?

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                      #20
                      floyd demands a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya and arum says no. floyd fanboys BUT HE WOULD HAVE FOUGHT MARG IF ARUM GAVE THAT TO HIM!

                      fast forward to less than a year...floyd agrees to fight hoya for a 10 million guarantee. what happened to that 20 million that he wanted? funny how it went away when the other fights weren't part of the deal...

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