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  • Thaman2x
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    #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Am i wrong?
    You are wrong. Show me one fighter that's "juiced to his eyeballs" in America, that's fighting? Your ASSUMPTIONS on how "Flawed" the American system is does not make them Facts.

    Your allegiance to the UK is creating an obvious bias.

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    • Corelone
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      #22
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      They didn't screw up that's the point. It's confidential until the investigation is complete.
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      I'm disgusted that Americans think they can ridicule UKAD when they have no mandatory random testing at all. All they have is voluntary VADA. Sort out your own inferior testing before ridiculing others. There'll be countless fighters in America juiced to the eyeballs fighting every week with no fear of getting caught.
      What good is UKAD if they don't release adverse findings for the home town fighter, until after the fight? That just adds a layer of false security. They are there to protect the fighters, not cover up for cheats. And how does a confidentiality claus get out if it's so confidential?

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #23
        Originally posted by Thaman2x
        You are wrong. Show me one fighter that's "juiced to his eyeballs" in America, that's fighting? Your ASSUMPTIONS on how "Flawed" the American system is does not make them Facts.

        Your allegiance to the UK is creating an obvious bias.
        Are you seriously saying you think no fighters are juiced to their eyeballs in a country with no mandatory random testing? I can't show you because they aren't getting caught, because there's no mandatory random testing.

        Not bias it's facts. American drug testing in boxing is far far inferior. Yet you clowns think you can talk **** about a country that actually tests their fighters. It should be a moral obligation for the US to randomly test their fighters.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #24
          Originally posted by Corelone
          What good is UKAD if they don't release adverse findings for the home town fighter, until after the fight? That just adds a layer of false security. They are there to protect the fighters, not cover up for cheats. And how does a confidentiality claus get out if it's so confidential?
          The athletes will be punished when found guilty, after they've had a chance to defend themselves.

          Well someone leaked it smart guy.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            The athletes will be punished when found guilty, after they've had a chance to defend themselves.

            Well someone leaked it smart guy.
            You are reaching and obfuscating and starting to call me names. I got to go plow, but one more time. It's not about the lowest guy on the rung getting punished. It's about a drug enforcing company claiming it has rules that won't allow it to enforce it's mandate. To protect the fighters.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Corelone
              You are reaching and obfuscating and starting to call me names. I got to go plow, but one more time. It's not about the lowest guy on the rung getting punished. It's about a drug enforcing company claiming it has rules that won't allow it to enforce it's mandate. To protect the fighters.
              You show me one UKAD rule that says it's mandate is to protect fighters. UKAD is a testing agency for all sports, they follow the WADA code. The WADA code isn't written for boxing but sport as a whole. Again if you have a problem with it take it up with WADA. Every other WADA signatory like USADA follow the exact same code as UKAD. There's no breaking of rules or corruption here on UKAD's part.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                I'm disgusted that Americans think they can ridicule UKAD when they have no mandatory random testing at all. All they have is voluntary VADA. Sort out your own inferior testing before ridiculing others. There'll be countless fighters in America juiced to the eyeballs fighting every week with no fear of getting caught.
                Exactly! It's hard to criticize something that doesn't exist. Americans should first sort themselves out before they start pointing with finger.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Corelone
                  Confidentiality does not extend to criminality. If you know a crime, like bank robbery, is being committed and don't tell, that makes you a coconspiritor, no contract claus will save you. Why are you defending these people? They are there to test, so no juice head gets in the ring, but they let one in. Why test? Might as well save the money.
                  Not everywhere citizen is obliged to report a known crime. In my country, I'm not obliged to report known crime except for the most offensive crimes (with the highest penalty).
                  Second, criminal and other legal procedures are not the same.

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                  • Thaman2x
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                    #29
                    Americans vs British lmfao. This is what a positive drug test has driven the conversation to?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WOWWWWW.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thaman2x
                      Americans vs British lmfao. This is what a positive drug test has driven the conversation to?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WOWWWWW.
                      Yes a drug test has driven it to discussion about drug testing (or lack of in America's case). Is that unusual?

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