Fans whom really appreciate boxing enjoy Canelo! Remember GGG memory lane?!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Yeah ur post doesn't address anything I said...Clearly ur not as knowledgeable as you think

It obviously addresses that the fights Canelo is accused of, “making a weight class” makes no sense when his opponents loved the idea since they had already fought there before.

Context is everything. The usual suspects such as yourselves would have something going if none of them had fought at 155 or above. Kirkland, Lara, Angulo had more experience than Canelo at 155+.

That’s why I said, you guys gotta try harder.

[R_Walken]

Sometimes I see a thread and think to myself: this will be a fun conversation, then we fall back into the reality of this website and find these Kats with the strangest reasoning and accusations in a sport that they pretend to enjoy.

This dude wants to make a point and negates his own reasoning - If Canelo is getting "Special" treatment from the sanctioning bodies (presumably "avoiding guys" to protect him) then why wouldn't they make every #1 an easy matchup for him? That is well within their power

Or if he's not up for challenges and avoided mandatories, then why doesn't he avoid the skilled fighter he has encountered that might not be mandatories?

Ultimately I find the truth is they don't enjoy boxing, they enjoy the vicarious wins of people on the screen that fit or fulfill their view of the "ideal".

My main questions: How can anyone ever say of a professional fighter - that has been fighting since 16 years old - that he is trying to fight guys when they are over the hill?
What mandatories are more dangerous than GGG or Jacobs?

I’m assuming you’re talking about me

Canelo dropped the strap when he was mandated to fight Golovkin and waited until he aged. So that paragraph of yours is pointless

What future HOFers has Canelo fought ( Mayweather / Moseley / Cotto / Golovkin / Maybe Kovalev ) All we’re over 35 basically a age for almost every boxer in the history of the sport starts declining rapidly from their Prime if their even still active . How many 35+ year old fighters are near the top of their division right now ? You don’t find it a coincidence that every time he fights future HOFers their at a age where they aren’t prime and in many cases their skills have slipped significantly compared to their Prime? Look at the first half of De La Hoyas career it’s almost the same blueprint

So you don’t Canelo receives special treatment and he is treated like every other fighter , How can you explain

- never having even 1 scorecard go against Him in his entire career often given 2-4 more rounds then public opinion , When he goes up against the best Almost always having 1 Judge full out their card before the fight starts
114-114 Mayweather
117-113 Lara
118-112 Golovkin

Getting Multiple Ws he didn’t deserve

- after popping dirty having the President Of a Sanctioning Organization publicly defend him proclaiming his innocence

- out of the blue him receiving a made up special designation strap that can’t be won or lost and has him never having to face a Mando

- getting his first strap at WW ( a vacant ) by fighting the other Hatton who was never more then a c class fighter

Having the President Of a Sanctioning Organization being 1 of 5 people in the sport ( 2 being his promoters ) saying Canelo won the first Golovkin fight

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Canelos a G and would fight anyone but his team isn’t going to let him fight anyone. Even with everything slanted in his favour it’s not a good look receiving Fake wins , Yes you can make up your own Weightclass which gives him all the power and gives a Excuse why he isn’t fighting certain guys , make that the reason you’re not fighting Gennady when he was mandated too ( Canelos fights at 155 hes not even a real MW forget that you hold the MW straps ) or Canelos bigger then the straps he doesn’t need to fight Andrade , Andrade has no fans fighting Angulo is a more exciting fight anyways

But none of this matters because I don’t even like the sport I just like watching vicarious Wins from my Ideal ( Whatever the f.uck that means )

[Phenom]

I’m assuming you’re talking about me

Canelo dropped the strap when he was mandated to fight Golovkin and waited until he aged. So that paragraph of yours is pointless

What future HOFers has Canelo fought ( Mayweather / Moseley / Cotto / Golovkin / Maybe Kovalev ) All we’re over 35 basically a age for almost every boxer in the history of the sport starts declining rapidly from their Prime if their even still active . How many 35+ year old fighters are near the top of their division right now ? You don’t find it a coincidence that every time he fights future HOFers their at a age where they aren’t prime and in many cases their skills have slipped significantly compared to their Prime? Look at the first half of De La Hoyas career it’s almost the same blueprint

So you don’t Canelo receives special treatment and he is treated like every other fighter , How can you explain

- never having even 1 scorecard go against Him in his entire career often given 2-4 more rounds then public opinion , When he goes up against the best Almost always having 1 Judge full out their card before the fight starts
114-114 Mayweather
117-113 Lara
118-112 Golovkin

Getting Multiple Ws he didn’t deserve

- after popping dirty having the President Of a Sanctioning Organization publicly defend him proclaiming his innocence

- out of the blue him receiving a made up special designation strap that can’t be won or lost and has him never having to face a Mando

- getting his first strap at WW ( a vacant ) by fighting the other Hatton who was never more then a c class fighter

Having the President Of a Sanctioning Organization being 1 of 5 people in the sport ( 2 being his promoters ) saying Canelo won the first Golovkin fight

-
Canelos a G and would fight anyone but his team isn’t going to let him fight anyone. Even with everything slanted in his favour it’s not a good look receiving Fake wins , Yes you can make up your own Weightclass which gives him all the power and gives a Excuse why he isn’t fighting certain guys , make that the reason you’re not fighting Gennady when he was mandated too ( Canelos fights at 155 hes not even a real MW forget that you hold the MW straps ) or Canelos bigger then the straps he doesn’t need to fight Andrade , Andrade has no fans fighting Angulo is a more exciting fight anyways

But none of this matters because I don’t even like the sport I just like watching vicarious Wins from my Ideal ( Whatever the f.uck that means )

Canelo didn't have a single fight at 160 limit when the GGG fight was mandated he was playing around with catchweights so I don't blame the wbc for calling the fight

Canelo didn't take long to take the Golovkin fight so I don't see how he waited for him to get old if anything GGG could've challenged Canelo for his 154 belt

[DuckAdonis]

I enjoy Canelo in the ring

But I don't enjoy the corruption, fanboying and the diva stuff surrounding him

[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelo didn't have a single fight at 160 limit when the GGG fight was mandated he was playing around with catchweights so I don't blame the wbc for calling the fight

Canelo didn't take long to take the Golovkin fight so I don't see how he waited for him to get old if anything GGG could've challenged Canelo for his 154 belt

Fannon don't get schooled you old ugly lookin geezer.

What's with the catchweight(s) after Cotto? Surely you don't mean something was ''mandated'' if Cotto had the strap innit?! You think Canelo fighting Khan at 160 would've been fair? Like Brook asking for a catchweight but GGG shot it down saying Hearn and Brook were clowns for even asking for a fight...yet GGG took it and made it 160?

lol.. yall it make it too easy. Many of you even forget voluntary defenses having existed as well. Canelo was going through litigation with All Star boxing for 8.5 million and LOST while the WBC was enforcing a deadline purse bid for GGG.

Yet you same dummies cheer Canelo flexin DAZN that you guys contradict yourselves. How do you cheer Canelo flexin DAZN but you have a problem when Canelo flexed the WBC....ALL WHILE you same dummies say the WBC is corrupt and yet again, cheer Wilder..

boxing is full of dummies, especially the ones associated to the WBC.

[boliodogs]

This is good. You are an honest boxing fan. For years you could never mention GGG fighting outside of 160. He was waiting for 154 fighters to move up. We don’t see any 154 Champs now calling out Bud or Crawford even though those Welterweights are the bigger draws and better pay. Lots of fighters northbound want a crack at Canelo too.

This is what boxing is about, “best fighting the best” and no exclusivity to a weight class.

Who are you to decide who is or is not an honest boxing fan? By your standard if you worship Canelo and hate GGG you are an honest fan but if you like GGG wven a little and think he beat Canelo twice you can't be an honest boxing fan. GGG fought at 160 because he was the middleweight champ. That is what middleweight champs do in case nobody ever told you that. How many times did the great middleweights Monzon, Hagler and Hopkins ever fight at 168 or 154????? Never, nado, zero, not once. It's a lie that GGG waited for 154 pound fighters to move up but then you lie a lot. GGG had 20 title defenses and they were all against middleweights except Brook who was a late replacement for big middleweight Eubank. I don't recall Brook ever asking GGG to fight him at catchweight. Unless you can show me he did I think you are lying and making sht up. GGG fought champion Jacobs who is a huge middleweight. As for the best fighting the best Fielding is not the best at 168. He is terrible and Canelo knew that before he fought him. If Canelo wanted to fight the best at 168 he would have fought Callum Smith who had KOed Fielding in 2 rounds prior to Canelo fighting him. Smith was the real champ at 168 and Canelo knew that. Canelo is not a real champ at 168 and I doubt he will ever fight Smith, or Plant or Benavidez or Bivol at 168.

[AKAcronym]

First post in this thread is a Canelo fan who said he wants Canelo to face the best 168 fighters, then proceeds to mention Canelo/Plant at 165. Pretty much Canelo's career in a nutshell.

[Boxing Goat]

I noticed this comment from a poster. Analyze the post below..

Had you replaced Canelo with GGG the Golovkin fans would yell an outrage that GGG didn’t have to.... meanwhile and fast forward today most objective fans are game with various Canelo opponents from 160-175 and Canelo smaller than GGG...

I appreciated Canelo right up until the point where he got popped for PED's.

[boliodogs]

The reason that I mention light heavy's is because Canelo seems open to the challenge. Do I believe that Kovalev and Bivol are too big? Absolutely! I would love to see Canelo against the best 168 pounders as well. How about Canelo/Plant at 165?

Catchweights for world titles SUCK! They are BS. Cotto was a pretend middleweight champion never once fighting at 160. If Canelo can't beat Plant at the traditional 168 then just don't fight him at all and stay at 160. If no world title is at stake then catchweights are OK. No world champion should be asked to risk his title at a catchweight below the traditional standard weight. If Canelo wins at 165 does he keep the title and continue to defend it at 165? In fairness to Canelo he never suggested a 168 pound champ fight him at 165. That is your bright idea.

[Alan Smithee]

Catchweights for world titles SUCK! They are BS. Cotto was a pretend middleweight champion never once fighting at 160. If Canelo can't beat Plant at the traditional 168 then just don't fight him at all and stay at 160. If no world title is at stake then catchweights are OK. No world champion should be asked to risk his title at a catchweight below the traditional standard weight. If Canelo wins at 165 does he keep the title and continue to defend it at 165? In fairness to Canelo he never suggested a 168 pound champ fight him at 165. That is your bright idea.

Standard weight? Many on here make those claims. The maximum weight for a super middle is 168. Anywhere from 161-168 is super middleweight. Does every championship fight have both fighters at the absolute maximum, even without catchweights? Of course not. No one said that Canelo couldn't beat Plant or ant other super middle's at 168. It may not be the brightest of ideas but if you can get an edge why not take it, especially when moving up in weight. It's not like catchweights and rehydration clauses haven't happened before. There has been talk of a Canelo/Kovalev fight. Would it be a smart move to accept that match without a rehydration clause? A middleweight fighting a guy weighing in the 190's probably would not bode well.