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  • #71
    Originally posted by Jkp View Post
    Whyte just got dropped by a midget unranked nobody Rivas.

    Whyte has awful boxing skills.
    The least skilled boxer in the top 20. Domestic UK level at best. Too scared to get in the ring with AJ, for millions of pounds, coward.
    I'm no huge fan of his but he's better than what you're suggesting. Rivas isn't an unranked nobody, he's a top top boxer. Stop making sh.it up.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
      You don't know that it's not true.

      If Whyte was not clean UKAD, VADA and NADP would not have allowed him to fight.
      Absolutely untrue.

      Whyte is given the right to appeal and test his B sample. Until the B sample comes back, he is not considered guilty, because the initial determination is being appealed...much like the U.S. court system, in which a court's decision often isn't implemented or enforced while the decision is on appeal.

      If the B sample comes back dirty, he's guilty. If the B sample comes back clean, then there will be another hearing.

      The fact that the fight went forward is simply the result of unusual timing...the date of the fight was after the A sample result but before the B sample result was available, so the BBBofC had to let him fight.

      The fact that Whyte was allowed fight had ZERO to do with Whyte being innocent. It was procedural.

      So Whyte wasn't cleared and Trump wasn't exonerated.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
        Absolutely untrue.

        Whyte is given the right to appeal and test his B sample. Until the B sample comes back, he is not considered guilty, because the initial determination is being appealed...much like the U.S. court system, in which a court's decision often isn't implemented or enforced while the decision is on appeal.

        If the B sample comes back dirty, he's guilty. If the B sample comes back clean, then there will be another hearing.

        The fact that the fight went forward is simply the result of unusual timing...the date of the fight was after the A sample result but before the B sample result was available, so the BBBofC had to let him fight.

        The fact that Whyte was allowed fight had ZERO to do with Whyte being innocent. It was procedural.

        So Whyte wasn't cleared and Trump wasn't exonerated.
        The BBBoC didn't have to let him fight at all. UKAD have the power to suspend Whyte on the spot if they feel he is in complete violation. They didn't, they allowed him a hearing and in that hearing with an independent body (NADP) he was allowed to fight thanks to evidence he produced with the possible assistance of VADA.

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        • #74


          A Hearn interview from last night. From before today's VADA news so nothing on that. May be of some interest to some people though so thought I'd post it.

          Whyte talk starts at 3.56 in.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
            The BBBoC didn't have to let him fight at all. UKAD have the power to suspend Whyte on the spot if they feel he is in complete violation. They didn't, they allowed him a hearing and in that hearing with an independent body (NADP) he was allowed to fight thanks to evidence he produced with the possible assistance of VADA.
            Of course they didn't have to let him fight.

            But they did let him fight because he appealed and the B test was still pending. They can't treat him as a violator when his appeal was still pending.

            But that doesn't mean he didn't take a banned substance. It just means it's a flawed system based on the timing on the appeal and the B test.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
              Whyte has fought far better opponents than Wilder. He's taken on everybody, he hides from no-one.

              Whyte has a far more impressive record and has fought better fighters more frequently than Wilder.
              Hes fought no one decent except Parker. FACT. and he only won that due to a foul head butt.

              Dont try tell me Lucas Brown, or Chisora with 9 losses is a career highlight.

              Whyte has hidden from almost every fighter he calls out, he ran from guaranteed fight with AJ, twice this year.
              Ran from many eliminators in the past.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
                He fights far better opponents than Wilder does. Look at the nobodies Wilder has in his record. He has only fought 2 or 3 world class fighters, Whyte has fought 3x that many.
                Who are these world class fighters that are better than Ortiz/Tyson Fury or even better than Brezeale ?

                Please tell us?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                  I don't get it. If there was evidence that metabolites produced from a banned steroid were in his blood, what evidence could there possibly have been that he was innocent?? I mean other than test results from the "B" sample, which hasn't been tested.
                  Pretty much this is the most sensible post within this thread.

                  I have stated in another thread or maybe within this one 'That Dillian Whyte has legitimately failed a drug test we all know this' But under what circumstances has that failed test occurred 'Has Whyte once again, been taking a supplement which has illegal substances in? etc

                  Dillian Whyte seems to have dived in head first into the sport science and supplement craze 'And I have been stating it for some time, that the supplement industry is completely unregulated. It does not matter how many accreditation stamps you see on a supplement, the industry is not entirely safe for athletes to use.
                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-01-2019, 03:34 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by BoloShot View Post
                    I'm no huge fan of his but he's better than what you're suggesting. Rivas isn't an unranked nobody, he's a top top boxer. Stop making sh.it up.
                    They are always unknown low ranked nobodies, until they sign to fight Whyte. Then Eddie tells everyone they are world beaters top 10 athletes. And jump about 50 places in the rankings.

                    Keep drinking the cool aide

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
                      Of course they didn't have to let him fight.

                      But they did let him fight because he appealed and the B test was still pending. They can't treat him as a violator when his appeal was still pending.

                      But that doesn't mean he didn't take a banned substance. It just means it's a flawed system based on the timing on the appeal and the B test.
                      You do not know that he appealed, only that he requested a hearing, I'm not sure that's the same thing. We do not know anything about the 'B' sample and whether it's even being tested. We are only waiting on UKAD or Whyte to let us know what happened.

                      He is not currently suspended. He was cleared to fight. He could fight next week if he wanted. What is he appealing against exactly if they aren't suspending him?

                      I'm a little fuzzy on their protocols at this stage. Hopefully they've learnt from the Fury saga and resolve this quickly because allowing a fighter to compete whilst there is an investigation going on isn't a good look and is definitely a flawed system.

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