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  • Gatti Should Fight On?

    I know Im in the complete minority but think about it. He could still get a huge fight with Cotto or Hatton.

    Gatti didnt beat Baldy last night because he just isnt better then Baldy. There have been so many people saying that Gatti is done now or should hang them up but it simply isnt true.

    Look at Gatti and look at Vargas. Vargas is slow and looks completely shot. Gatti didnt look that way at all. He didnt look like he had lost a step and I actually thought that he looked better last night then he had in any time in recent memory. He just wasnt better then Baldy but he was never better then Baldy at any point in his career.

    In all of Gatti's recent wins, he still looked just above average in all of them. He looked ****ty trying to box and he was so uncoordianted. Last night he didnt look uncoordinated at all. It was the most coordinated I had seen him look in a long time. He had nice speed, great power, and were throwing good combos. Baldy was just a monster.

    I think Gatti couldve beat Cotto or Hatton last night or atleast wouldve gave them hell. Baldy is a true WW and they arent but Baldy also is a exception because he has a head and chin like a Middleweight. Gatti's D ****** but his D has always ******. If he hit Cotto or Hatton with those shots then they would be in trouble and I also think that he would take there punches alot better then Baldy's. Even though he had no KO's, its still like Hatton vs Callazo. This guy can hurt you and you cant really hurt him because he's been there forever.

    I actually thought Gatti looked good last night and I definatly think he would give Cotto or Hatton problems. If he loses to them then he can retire but I dont think a lost to a big monster like Baldy should hurt him at this point. If you say that Gatti should retire because he's been hit in the head way too much then I say ok and I understand that but if you say that he should retire because his skills are deteroiating then thats a false statement

  • #2
    I don't think he should anymore. Maybe one more fight, but a kind of 'good bye fight' if you will. Right now, Hatton, Cotto and the other top welterweights are too much for Gatti. Gatti is in the position where retiring won't hurt him as much as him continuing to fight and most likely losing.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DLT
      I know Im in the complete minority but think about it. He could still get a huge fight with Cotto or Hatton.

      Gatti didnt beat Baldy last night because he just isnt better then Baldy. There have been so many people saying that Gatti is done now or should hang them up but it simply isnt true.

      Look at Gatti and look at Vargas. Vargas is slow and looks completely shot. Gatti didnt look that way at all. He didnt look like he had lost a step and I actually thought that he looked better last night then he had in any time in recent memory. He just wasnt better then Baldy but he was never better then Baldy at any point in his career.

      In all of Gatti's recent wins, he still looked just above average in all of them. He looked ****ty trying to box and he was so uncoordianted. Last night he didnt look uncoordinated at all. It was the most coordinated I had seen him look in a long time. He had nice speed, great power, and were throwing good combos. Baldy was just a monster.

      I think Gatti couldve beat Cotto or Hatton last night or atleast wouldve gave them hell. Baldy is a true WW and they arent but Baldy also is a exception because he has a head and chin like a Middleweight. Gatti's D ****** but his D has always ******. If he hit Cotto or Hatton with those shots then they would be in trouble and I also think that he would take there punches alot better then Baldy's. Even though he had no KO's, its still like Hatton vs Callazo. This guy can hurt you and you cant really hurt him because he's been there forever.

      I actually thought Gatti looked good last night and I definatly think he would give Cotto or Hatton problems. If he loses to them then he can retire but I dont think a lost to a big monster like Baldy should hurt him at this point.
      I aggree with everything you said, 1 or even 2 years ago Gatti still would not have beaten Baldomier. Gatti did look good last night, he just got his ass kicked by the better fighter. And Gatti humping the ropes wasn't going to lure Baldomier in, lol.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Benzeeto
        I don't think he should anymore. Maybe one more fight, but a kind of 'good bye fight' if you will. Right now, Hatton, Cotto and the other top welterweights are too much for Gatti. Gatti is in the position where retiring won't hurt him as much as him continuing to fight and most likely losing.
        If Gatti fights one last good by fight, they better make sure that opponet has no heart in him to fight and can take as good a punch as Gamache or Milliet.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ferocity
          I aggree with everything you said, 1 or even 2 years ago Gatti still would not have beaten Baldomier. Gatti did look good last night, he just got his ass kicked by the better fighter. And Gatti humping the ropes wasn't going to lure Baldomier in, lol.


          yah, that was funny. WTF? bouncing on the ropes like 5 times! even the crowd didnt have a reaction. I like Gatti, he's a warrior but he should retire. The punch to Gatti's elbow or wrist last night wherever it was could have had an effect, I dunno.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            I know Im in the complete minority but think about it. He could still get a huge fight with Cotto or Hatton.

            Gatti didnt beat Baldy last night because he just isnt better then Baldy. There have been so many people saying that Gatti is done now or should hang them up but it simply isnt true.

            Look at Gatti and look at Vargas. Vargas is slow and looks completely shot. Gatti didnt look that way at all. He didnt look like he had lost a step and I actually thought that he looked better last night then he had in any time in recent memory. He just wasnt better then Baldy but he was never better then Baldy at any point in his career.

            In all of Gatti's recent wins, he still looked just above average in all of them. He looked ****ty trying to box and he was so uncoordianted. Last night he didnt look uncoordinated at all. It was the most coordinated I had seen him look in a long time. He had nice speed, great power, and were throwing good combos. Baldy was just a monster.

            I think Gatti couldve beat Cotto or Hatton last night or atleast wouldve gave them hell. Baldy is a true WW and they arent but Baldy also is a exception because he has a head and chin like a Middleweight. Gatti's D ****** but his D has always ******. If he hit Cotto or Hatton with those shots then they would be in trouble and I also think that he would take there punches alot better then Baldy's. Even though he had no KO's, its still like Hatton vs Callazo. This guy can hurt you and you cant really hurt him because he's been there forever.

            I actually thought Gatti looked good last night and I definatly think he would give Cotto or Hatton problems. If he loses to them then he can retire but I dont think a lost to a big monster like Baldy should hurt him at this point. If you say that Gatti should retire because he's been hit in the head way too much then I say ok and I understand that but if you say that he should retire because his skills are deteroiating then thats a false statement
            Gatti won't get another shot at the big names anytime soon after last night. If Baldomir beat Gatti one sidedly, Hatton can do much worse to him. Hatton and Cotto are more skilled than Baldomir in my opinion. They hit harder too.

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            • #7
              AS much as Like Gatti I believe it's time for him to hang it up.
              That said, he'll probably fight again..
              and WIN !!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Benzeeto
                Gatti won't get another shot at the big names anytime soon after last night. If Baldomir beat Gatti one sidedly, Hatton can do much worse to him. Hatton and Cotto are more skilled than Baldomir in my opinion. They hit harder too.
                What do you mean he wont get another shot? He can get anything he wants. He's the biggest money man in boxing behind Oscar.

                Baldomire is better then you think and I would pick him right now to beat Cotto or Hatton. This isnt a pound for pound thing. They are in his division now and as you saw in the Hatton-Callazo fight, there not going to be pushing these guys around and flat out dominating because of there size advantage. There power wont hurt these guys nearly as much and in turn they will be more hurt by these guys power

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DLT

                  Baldomire is better then you think and I would pick him right now to beat Cotto or Hatton. This isnt a pound for pound thing. They are in his division now and as you saw in the Hatton-Callazo fight, there not going to be pushing these guys around and flat out dominating because of there size advantage. There power wont hurt these guys nearly as much and in turn they will be more hurt by these guys power
                  Thats Crazy talk.Cotto would beat Gatti's ass much worse than Baldomir did.I dont see what the hell makes you think Baldy could beat cotto,was it all the trouble a one-handed gatti gave him? lmao.

                  Dude did we see the same fight? I think you need to take another look at the Damgaard fight were gatti looked like crap before you start hyping Baldomir up.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mech.
                    Thats Crazy talk.Cotto would beat Gatti's ass much worse than Baldomir did.I dont see what the hell makes you think Baldy could beat cotto,was it all the trouble a one-handed gatti gave him? lmao.

                    Dude did we see the same fight? I think you need to take another look at the Damgaard fight were gatti looked like crap before you start hyping Baldomir up.
                    Cotto has also looked like crap a bunch of times and I think he didnt look that good against Paulie. He also gets rocked in nearly every fight. Im still interested to seeing what Cotto will look like at 147 because he could be more comfortable from not draining or he could get completely exposed because if he struggled with guys who he outweighs by a 100 pounds then what will he do with guys his size? You talk about Damgard but he has a much better resume then someone like Torres who almost stopped Cotto or N'Dou who got destroyed by Witter
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                    I still say that people may be overdoing it with the short passing game. I really think it was our game plan and not Brunell for a number of reasons. I think Saunders did it to get our O in a rhythm, to mislead the Jags for next week, and he probally saw that it could be really effective against them.

                    Ill be the 1st one to rip Brunell if he goes short because I hate that more then anything but I honestly believe that against Houston & Minny it was the game plan and it worked. People act like we did nothing against Minny. We still scored 16 points, missed a FG, and kicked 3 FG's inside the 10. We just werent up to speed yet because we really didnt have Portis and it was our 1st time running the O at full speed.

                    Now look at the Dallas game. We didnt do crap but you could see that our game plan was different. We didnt really try to do any of those screens and swing passes. We did play action and Brunell looked deep but he didnt throw it for whatever reason, wether it was pressure, no one was open, or if he was gun shy. My point is I expect the same against the Jags but we should have some better results this time because were more ready.

                    Which takes me back to one of my HS games. It was the middle of the year and we had a great team. We were playing the worst team in the league this week and playing the best team the following week. We knew we were going to win no matter what this week and we had a star RB. NO lie, we ran the ball up the middle every play. Our RB set a school record for carries. We tried to kill him but it was all really a setup. By doing that we only scored 14pts that game and barley won. We didnt do that for them, we did that for our next opponent. The next week we came up with this great game plan with a brand new offense, trick plays, and so on. We did everything totaly different.

                    My point is that I see that happening on Sunday. I bet you wont see us run one play this week that we did last week and I bet anything that the game plan is totally differnt. Still based around the run but with a downfield attack. We killed Houston with the 4wr ******* Draw but I bet we dont run that play one time against the Jags
                    Last edited by DLT; 09-29-2006, 04:04 PM.

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