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Would michael spinks be #1 in todays HW division?
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostSpinks vs. Usyk would be sweet
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostI felt (and this isn’t a knock against Holmes) that it was a pretty weak HW era.
Holmes definitely spent his entire Heavyweight reign picking up low-hanging fruit. Pretty pathetic. But he gets a pass because: his pre-championship career was unnecessarily difficult; he's clearly very good on film; he's been forgotten, having been sandwiched between Ali and Tyson - as I always say, it's less about the fighter and more about his story.
Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostI felt (and this isn’t a knock against Holmes) that it was a pretty weak HW era. I didn’t say Spinks was the best, Holmes was better than Spinks. Tim Witherspoon is better than Spinks too. I was just saying that Holmes had already beaten the best heavyweights of that era. Nobody left. Carl Williams was a damn good looking prospect and Larry made him look like an amateur getting a sparring lesson. Other than rematching Witherspoon there wasn’t anyone I can think of that Larry could have fought that would have been betterOriginally posted by _Rexy_ View PostCarl Williams was a damn good looking prospect and Larry made him look like an amateur getting a sparring lesson. Other than rematching Witherspoon there wasn’t anyone I can think of that Larry could have fought that would have been better
I am pretty sure I scored that for Larry every time I watched it. But I KNOW it was a damn close fight. Maybe, just maybe, Larry underestimated Williams. But the point is, it was a close fight. Giving it to Williams wouldn't have been the worst decision ever. Holmes clearly met his match. And not in an especially gifted fighter.
Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostOther than rematching Witherspoon wasn’t anyone I can think of that Larry could have fought that would have been better
Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostI can think of that Larry could have fought that would have been better
Apparently Spinks found out in sparring that he wanted no part of Greg PAge.
I need to refresh my knowledge of that era's Heavyweights. But Spinks was almost certainly never the best Heavyweight in the world.
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostCome on man, that same Holmes beat Ray Mercer 8 years after that and went 12 rounds with Holyfield for the heavyweight title 9 years after. He wasn’t shot.
Good news: the majority of posters here will fall for it.
The bad news: Anyone with an IQ over 80 sees right through it.
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostSpinks vs. Usyk would be sweet
Tree-stump Qawi and a his terrible weight-cut still made things interesting early in their fight. After that, both fighters kinda let off the gas.
Usyk man-handles any version of Spinks.
Without the weight-cut, or against anyone his size with a pulse, Spinks looks pedestrian.
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostNot really. Spinks punks against pressure fighters his own size.
Tree-stump Qawi and a his terrible weight-cut still made things interesting early in their fight. After that, both fighters kinda let off the gas.
Usyk man-handles any version of Spinks.
Without the weight-cut, or against anyone his size with a pulse, Spinks looks pedestrian.
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostHuh? How is that so when he lost just once to prime Tyson?
Seriously, he's the guy you want next to you when the Zombie Apocalypse comes... he made a career of beating zombies.
Usyk is on a different level. Too refined. Too strong. Spinks' awkward style won't befuddle Usyk. He'll get his ass kicked trying that shyte.
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