Does anyone else not buy Canelo's story about the tainted meat

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  • CHOWWOKKA
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    #51
    Cant we all just agree that canelo is a cheat. Marquez is a cheat. And of course Manny is a cheat.

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    • The Ox
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      #52
      Originally posted by vaynardevil
      i dont buy it tbh
      he got caught, thats it
      2nd fight proved he can beat GGG without roid thou
      Did it? I thought the second fight was an even clearer W for GGG.

      Wouldn't be surprised if it was Oscar calling in a favour tbh

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      • jimisawesome
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        #53
        His version of events makes the most sense given the evidence and much sense than many of the comments around him popping. He popped for trace amounts of Clen which is used as a cutting agent which given the length of the time to the fight does not make sense to use. And is used as a bronchodilator which if this was the reason for use he could easily get TUE to use more effective drugs. So we have a low motive to use Clen.

        Combine that with a history of contaminated meat in Mexico to the point where a hundred kids popped. That the NFL and other sports leagues warn players of before they vacation or play games there. That Canelo popped for levels consistent with contaminated meat. That he tested for a level that is well below doses needed to be effective. Oh, right I forgot his trainers were butchers so they have a superpower to test and see everything the cow consumed before it was butchered.

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        • paulf
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          #54
          Nope.........

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          • boliodogs
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            #55
            Originally posted by The Ox
            Did it? I thought the second fight was an even clearer W for GGG.

            Wouldn't be surprised if it was Oscar calling in a favour tbh
            Most viewers think GGG won both fights. Canelo refuses to fight GGG outside of Vegas and GGG refuses to fight him in Vegas again so there will be no 3rd fight. Canelo makes sure he fights the tough guys in Vegas only.

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            • boliodogs
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              #56
              Originally posted by jimisawesome
              His version of events makes the most sense given the evidence and much sense than many of the comments around him popping. He popped for trace amounts of Clen which is used as a cutting agent which given the length of the time to the fight does not make sense to use. And is used as a bronchodilator which if this was the reason for use he could easily get TUE to use more effective drugs. So we have a low motive to use Clen.

              Combine that with a history of contaminated meat in Mexico to the point where a hundred kids popped. That the NFL and other sports leagues warn players of before they vacation or play games there. That Canelo popped for levels consistent with contaminated meat. That he tested for a level that is well below doses needed to be effective. Oh, right I forgot his trainers were butchers so they have a superpower to test and see everything the cow consumed before it was butchered.
              You are a the highest paid boxer and you a 45 million dollar fight coming. Just don't eat ANY Mexican beef and be clean no matter what. If he tested at such a low level why did the testers find him guilty?

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #57
                Originally posted by UNBIASED BOXING
                Does it really matter?

                I guarantee you, almost every ****ing top level athlete is on some sort of PEDs.

                Let's take recent greats: Marquez, Pacquiao, Floyd, Wladimir--- you'd have to be an absolute ****** to think any of them were legit. A boxer at 40 years old more ripped, more muscle mass/heavier than when they were in the prime? Are you serious?

                I hate to break it to you all, but Canelo & even Golovkin are all probably on roids. There's so many ways to cheat the system, but people have a hard time accepting their heroes (they're ****ing boxers for christ sake), are incapable of doing wrong. When your health is on the line, and millions of dollars are at stake, how many of you actually think the majority of these fighters are that selfless?

                Even average non-athletes using PEDs/steroids is pretty common these days and becoming more widespread. You go to any commercial gym, and I guarantee you out of 10 gym-goers, probably 1 is on something.

                Any regular kid can go online and research how to do a proper cycle/stay safe doing it, the different types of PEDs, and even get some easily enough.



                random note and fyi, but Clenbuterol has a very short life-cycle.
                It's recognised elimination half life in humans is around 35 - 36 hours. I'm not sure whether that qualifies as long or short in relation to other substances used as performance enhancers, but it's definitely at the long end of the scale when it comes to recreational drugs.

                Mmm...


                Dianabol half life 6 hours (though with longer lasting metabolytes)

                Oxilofrine half life 8.5 hours

                Meldonium half life 3.6 - 6.6 hours (non-linear. increases with repeat use)

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                • jimisawesome
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  You are a the highest paid boxer and you a 45 million dollar fight coming. Just don't eat ANY Mexican beef and be clean no matter what. If he tested at such a low level why did the testers find him guilty?
                  That is a valid argument but that is a different argument than most of the people here are making which is that it is nonsense and he purposely doped. Hell, I am not even saying he does not dope just that it would not be with Clen at that point in time of a training camp. He is not cutting weight at that time and he can get a TUE for better bronchodilators.

                  And the reason for his suspension is GGG forcing the issue. Every other time with Clen and Mexican meat the punishment is moving your camp to the US, more drug tests and a strong warning.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
                    Cant we all just agree that canelo is a cheat. Marquez is a cheat. And of course Manny is a cheat.
                    Marquez and manny never tested positive

                    Canelo did

                    And blamed it on tacos lol

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