I find it difficult to sympathise with Crawford.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #21
    Originally posted by Heavyhands420
    Nice man. I have him ranked #2 as well. Whos your number one then?
    Lomachenko, his skill level is extraordinary IMO

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    • Divine Hammer
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      #22
      crawford definitely overrated. doesnt deserve top 5 p4p. nope. best win is still gamboa. wow.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #23
        so much logic and common sense here...its all factual

        but the TR flying monkeys/anti pbc guys will somehow come up and refute this with their lunacy

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          #24
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          Why do we live in a world where a fighter is being shamed for not picking a different promotional company to get the fights he wants?

          Everybody needs to come to the table and make a fight with Crawford. I don’t even understand it, a victory over him is the quickest path to superstardom.
          guarantee this alt POS flying monkey was telling charlo to sign with DAZN to get the fights he wants doe

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          • nghtmr111
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            #25
            Originally posted by Divine Hammer
            crawford definitely overrated. doesnt deserve top 5 p4p. nope. best win is still gamboa. wow.
            I don't understand how anyone can defend this crap. That's a fact lol...

            And what's worse is that people think all WW's are ducking Crawford. EVEN if all the WW's were calling him out, that doesn't mean Haymon and Arum will work together.

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            • thabanga510
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              #26
              Bob is good if you are just starting out. Once Crawford's contract was up he had no business resigning with Top Rank. Bob has put his $3 million dollar a fight value on Crawford and Bob does just enough to try and make a profit off of that.

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              • Curt Henning
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                #27
                Originally posted by spenz
                I think Crawford's team overestimated Bob Arum's promotional powers because of his reputation. Bob was able to convince them that with him and ESPN's so called megaphone effect is more than enough to tip the balance in their favor.

                What they did not expect is Pacquiao's gravity, Bob thought Manny was all done, old, has been and just a fight away from being destroyed, and since Bob was not successful in passing the torch of Manny to his stable no matter how much he tried. Pacquiao effectively sealed and hit the nail in the coffin for Crawford's welterweight fate.

                With the Re-emergence of Pacquiao. Haymon was able to create a Pacquiao Tournament inside his stable that will keep everyone busy for years to come. Best can already now fight the best inside the PBC stable because there is something far bigger to look forward to.

                So Crawford's only choice right now is to finish his contract and sign immediately to PBC afterwards. The bad news is that, Time already took away years of his fighting prime. Still, there's a good news left, which is, he's still getting paid well while waiting.
                good point and good post

                bob missed it on pac here later in his career and it was pbc gain

                bob reminds me of bill belichick slightly in a way...for as great as bob has been he has some misses...same with belichick in regards to in game and draft/free agent decisions.....the longer youre around you are going to make some mistakes

                think back to bobs opinion on Floyd many years ago...didn't want to make the Oscar/Floyd fight when Floyd was still with TR because he thought hed lose money....bob was on record as saying that Floyd agreed to fight margarita provided bob guaranteed him 10 mil a apiece for future fights against cotto and hatton...bob said hed only do 7 or something like that....bob also didn't like the idea Floyd had to promote himself as a greedy villain...bob preferred the clean cut all American kid image......bob didn't have the foresight on that one......which made bob very bitter when Floyd left and became huge on his own

                bob should have put Crawford and pac in there when he had the chance....

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                  #28
                  By the way. Hasn't history shown us that networks and promoters have a hard time working with each other? I'm sick of this Crawford is being avoided talk then seeing him fight absolutely shyt opponents

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                    i can see where ur coming from OP, but at the end of the day above everything i always felt it was silly that the promotional groups cant/dont want to work together
                    If Arum and Crawford are serious about fighting Spence then quit just talking about it and put a public offer to fight complete with the dollar amount and fight location on the table and let the fans decide if the offer is a fair one and who is avoiding who. This is about Spence vs Crawford. It's clear to most that they are the two best welterweights.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by nghtmr111
                      By the way. Hasn't history shown us that networks and promoters have a hard time working with each other? I'm sick of this Crawford is being avoided talk then seeing him fight absolutely shyt opponents
                      That's right. He knew damn well it would be like this and he could have gone with Haymon but he deliberately did not. Now he makes top dollar fighting guys like Khan while Spence fights champions.

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