Coppinger Reveals More Info on Whyte's Dirty Test!

[Eff Pandas]

Am still baffled how VADA didn’t catch the same thing that UKAD (WADA) caught Whyte for.

UKAD might be using a different testing means. I've heard one of the tricky parts of making a test is coming up with one that doesn't catch inconsequential amounts of substances vs catches amounts that would suggest PED cheating was done. Being that this was a trace amount of a PED that would be my thinking anyway.

Could be that the UKAD & VADA testing were on different days to.

This PED testing sh^t isn't an exact science & that how so many mfers are able to abuse the current system. The testing people are in HS, the PED cheaters are in college.

[Eff Pandas]

maybe he ate an infected taco?

I'd bet anything if Whyte didn't intentionally take a PED that it was in a supplement.

This happens in MMA all the time & its been proven numerous times (Yoel Romero just won some crazy ass lawsuit for multimillions vs a supplement company).

Look into how f#cking sketchy the supplement industry is. Mfers throw PEDs in these workout sups all the time. If you've spent more than a grand in your lifetime on workout products its probably 90%+ likely you've ingested a PED.

[Eff Pandas]

Fan reactions in this sport are so predictable. They read like a daytime TV storyline. I don't know if you remember when Canelo failed his test and was VILIFIED and mocked by 95% of the forum. Amongst all of that I predicted that, if he beat Golovkin, you'd rarely hear a word about his test and that his support base here would be huge. And.... here we are.

LOL. Yea this is ALWAYS the case I think. Fans don't reallllllllly care about PED sh^t. They care in the moment. But no one has been mass branded a PED cheater. Its almost like its a scarlet letter that that washes off within a few months. Some tiny minority of fans seem to bring this up forever, but most fans give no f#cks about it.

And thats a good % of the reason why people with skin in the game just keeping it moving vs doing some more serious across the board PED protocols to protect boxers & the integrity of the sport.

[bigdunny1]

Am still baffled how VADA didn’t catch the same thing that UKAD (WADA) caught Whyte for.

They don't test the same samples. Instead they each collect their own samples to test and on different schedule. So you could have something in your system on Monday when UKAD tested you but if VADA doesn't test you again until Saturday and the substance is now gone from your body you didn't fail their test. That's how you fail one but not the other he wasn't tested on the same day by both agencies the VADA tests he passed we're on different days. He would of failed VADA too if it were the same day as his failed test sample from UKAD

[Eff Pandas]

If it's contamination, then where was he getting whatever supplements he uses? He trains with sport scientists at a good university, not in some shady South London boxing gym. Why are they even allowing outside substances in?

This is a good question.

Right now someone could make a lot of money on some sort of no PED confirmed supplement...in theory. Idk if its cost effective yet doe. From my understanding it costs about 5k to test a batch of a supplement. It'd have to be an expensive supplement & maybe thats worth it if you do compete & don't wanna risk some 3mo, 6mos, 12mos suspension & loss of income for the tiny number of people who compete.

[Randall Cunning]

They don't test the same samples. Instead they each collect their own samples to test and on different schedule. So you could have something in your system on Monday when UKAD tested you but if VADA doesn't test you again until Saturday and the substance is now gone from your body you didn't fail their test. That's how you fail one but not the other he wasn't tested on the same day by both agencies the VADA tests he passed we're on different days. He would of failed VADA too if it were the same day as his failed test sample from UKAD

Its going to be his defense I think. Hearn alluded to various tests being very close together.

[MDPopescu]

... It's UKAD which caught Whyte as taking peds... what if they fought in the U.S. -- where VADA was supposed to be the lead/main ped testing authority??? ... in the U.S., then, Whyte was supposed to fight without no "red flag" whatsoever???

[Stinger1]

They don't test the same samples. Instead they each collect their own samples to test and on different schedule. So you could have something in your system on Monday when UKAD tested you but if VADA doesn't test you again until Saturday and the substance is now gone from your body you didn't fail their test. That's how you fail one but not the other he wasn't tested on the same day by both agencies the VADA tests he passed we're on different days. He would of failed VADA too if it were the same day as his failed test sample from UKAD

Not exactly a good look for boxing though is it? If the additional VADA testing isn't catching dirty fighters which I think Hearn says tests fighters a minimum of 2 times a week during training camp then the WBC clean boxing programme is essentially pointless.

[damned1974]

Makes sense. You use Dbol to kick start a test cycle, and you do that far outside of testing so trace amounts would be in line with pre fight testing. The timing of the vada tests could be why they didn't catch him. These metabolites don't just accidentally show up.

All in all, there seems to be great effort to cover for this guy. Even with the glove situation. Just like when the Russians were caught in state sponsored doping, there needs to be action taken against the boards that allowed this dirty shyt to be taking place. You see some UK fans on 24/7 damage control. If the fans are that crazy it's not unreasonable to think the people running the sport there are as well. You didn't see this effort to excuse a guy when Miller was busted. The US straight turned on his ass.

100% truth right there!!!

[Ray*]

So you could have something in your system on Monday when UKAD tested you but if VADA doesn't test you again until Saturday and the substance is now gone from your body you didn't fail their test. That's how you fail one but not the other he wasn't tested on the same day by both agencies the VADA tests he passed we're on different days. He would of failed VADA too if it were the same day as his failed test sample from UKAD

This is the only plausible reason I could think for so far. But am glad then that the UKAD were the ones that caught him. If UKAD didn’t and VADA did then it would change the whole thing, people would be running around saying UKAD were helping drug cheats in the UK. I mean didn’t some people accused the American equivalent of UKAD (USADA) of helping Mayweather cheat too?