Is UKAD the reason Wilder was so afraid to fight in the UK?

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  • juggernaut666
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    #61
    Originally posted by tatot
    Whatever ffool, Rivas can take em to court whoever they are, I did not say Hearn or Whyte did I?
    Well I don't know really what you're saying I saw something banned for life and Rivas to court ? So you aren't even right on that bc Whyte cannot be denied a U.S boxing license bc it was under U.K UKAD which over saw the fight you dope. lol

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      #62
      Originally posted by Brettcappe
      So Wilder can't do it but the rest of us can? He doesn't have good genetics? If he used weights extensively he could be a bodybuilder. When I was in my thirties I did leg work and packed on plenty of muscle while using only creatine, protein powder, and amino acids. My calves weren't the greatest but I neglected them at times. Basic gym knowledge? You sound like a guy who has never stepped foot in one! It's your 50's and 60's when you lose the ability to grow muscle, certainly not as young as your 30's. You are one of the many on this forum who claim "wisdom' yet know very little. Are you Sid Knee, Barrett, Kafkod, juggernaught all in some secret "know nothing" club?
      Well I don't know are you 6'7 at age 30's who never tried massing your legs up that accomplished this feat ? thought not. Ha

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        #63
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        Well iv'e lifted for about 3 decades give or take a few yrs and can tell you Redeemer knows what hes talking about,you don't.


        Wilder has a very long frame and that means longer ligaments/joints and overall area to cover ,this is also coupled with a lot of joint and disk problems when strength training so they have to xtra careful they aren't as compact as shorter guys.they are at a disadvantage with longer humerus and femur lengths it would cause more time to put on muscle. Its why you don't see many muscle basketball players they aren't really built for it and if Wilder hasn't been doing leg work outs on a daily basis ever and you think he can just put on mass ,you really haven't been training long.


        One can just see his age/Genetics and his occupation which requires a lot of cardio is going to hinder this 250 pound Wilder ( in your fantasys) bc it is not realistic without steroids at his age now. the hamstrings and spinal erectors are the tall mans weak links its why guys over 6'5 USUALLY have bad balance as boxers and if one starts doing squats at 33/34 well...…….well you just cant walk in a gym and out and have huge thighs it doesn't work like that. at least naturally.


        I know im wasting my time here that's evident,you are another poster on here that talks in circles. lol
        Oh boy Juggs another one ya got. Ha

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          #64
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Well iv'e lifted for about 3 decades give or take a few yrs and can tell you Redeemer knows what hes talking about,you don't.


          Wilder has a very long frame and that means longer ligaments/joints and overall area to cover ,this is also coupled with a lot of joint and disk problems when strength training so they have to xtra careful they aren't as compact as shorter guys.they are at a disadvantage with longer humerus and femur lengths it would cause more time to put on muscle. Its why you don't see many muscle basketball players they aren't really built for it and if Wilder hasn't been doing leg work outs on a daily basis ever and you think he can just put on mass ,you really haven't been training long.


          One can just see his age/Genetics and his occupation which requires a lot of cardio is going to hinder this 250 pound Wilder ( in your fantasys) bc it is not realistic without steroids at his age now. the hamstrings and spinal erectors are the tall mans weak links its why guys over 6'5 USUALLY have bad balance as boxers and if one starts doing squats at 33/34 well...…….well you just cant walk in a gym and out and have huge thighs it doesn't work like that. at least naturally.


          I know im wasting my time here that's evident,you are another poster on here that talks in circles. lol

          The point that I was making was that he neglects leg work. I am not knocking him for it. He is a boxer and not a bodybuilder. Obviously road work does not pack on muscle like weightlifting would but to say Wilder has bad genetics? Who the fu.k said anything about packing on muscle overnight. It takes years of dedication. Something you beer bellied dudes know nothing about. I lifted weights for years not days! You are wasting your time! Some of you clowns make up things as you go along. I stated that you can gain muscle in your legs naturally! Many of us have done it!

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            #65
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            Well I don't know are you 6'7 at age 30's who never tried massing your legs up that accomplished this feat ? thought not. Ha
            I am over 6' 0" and did do leg work in my thirties. Do my knees get sore every now and then? Yes but I am in my fifties and luckily never needed surgery. One of your idiot buddies reponded as I figured. Of course he is another "know it all" who is probably terribly out of shape but talks a good game. Gotta love the keyboard warriors!

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              #66
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Well iv'e lifted for about 3 decades give or take a few yrs and can tell you Redeemer knows what hes talking about,you don't.


              Wilder has a very long frame and that means longer ligaments/joints and overall area to cover ,this is also coupled with a lot of joint and disk problems when strength training so they have to xtra careful they aren't as compact as shorter guys.they are at a disadvantage with longer humerus and femur lengths it would cause more time to put on muscle. Its why you don't see many muscle basketball players they aren't really built for it and if Wilder hasn't been doing leg work outs on a daily basis ever and you think he can just put on mass ,you really haven't been training long.


              One can just see his age/Genetics and his occupation which requires a lot of cardio is going to hinder this 250 pound Wilder ( in your fantasys) bc it is not realistic without steroids at his age now. the hamstrings and spinal erectors are the tall mans weak links its why guys over 6'5 USUALLY have bad balance as boxers and if one starts doing squats at 33/34 well...…….well you just cant walk in a gym and out and have huge thighs it doesn't work like that. at least naturally.


              I know im wasting my time here that's evident,you are another poster on here that talks in circles. lol
              From what I understand you are a fat slob who posted an amateurish heavy bag video! Any of this true?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Brettcappe
                I am over 6' 0" and did do leg work in my thirties. Do my knees get sore every now and then? Yes but I am in my fifties and luckily never needed surgery. One of your idiot buddies reponded as I figured. Of course he is another "know it all" who is probably terribly out of shape but talks a good game. Gotta love the keyboard warriors!
                Oh so anyone over 6 feet tall is the same as someone nearing 6'8 ? Keyboard warriors wasn't the discussion ,it was actually knowing about the difficulties a man in his 30's at 6'7 would have in building leg muscles that he doesn't have . As my original post to you awhile back ,a conversation with you usually doesn't go anywhere so im going to have to end it here, listen to juggs it could save you a lot of time rehashing things that don't add up.

                Edit : You mentioned juggs what are you talking about ? Never mind like I said the convo goes nowhere .Ha
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-26-2019, 01:40 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by welshwales
                  Wilder has already fought Harrison in the UK. I assume some sort of testing was done prior to that fight?
                  Testing wasn't as diligent then ,I don't see how . That's awhile back ,many advancments since even then.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    Oh so anyone over 6 feet tall is the same as someone nearing 6'8 ? Keyboard warriors wasn't the discussion ,it was actually knowing about the difficulties a man in his 30's at 6'7 would have in building leg muscles that he doesn't have . As my original post to you awhile back ,a conversation with you usually doesn't go anywhere so im going to have to end it here, listen to juggs it could save you a lot of time rehashing things that don't add up.
                    I have heard about Juggs (fat slob). Not impressed!

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Oh so anyone over 6 feet tall is the same as someone nearing 6'8 ? Keyboard warriors wasn't the discussion ,it was actually knowing about the difficulties a man in his 30's at 6'7 would have in building leg muscles that he doesn't have . As my original post to you awhile back ,a conversation with you usually doesn't go anywhere so im going to have to end it here, listen to juggs it could save you a lot of time rehashing things that don't add up.
                      The point that I was making was that leg work packs on muscle. Scientific fact. I can go on forever with you two clowns.


                      https://www.livestrong.com/article/1...n-skinny-legs/

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