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  • #71
    All you guys need stop with that trash that Mexicans are afraid to fight black guys. It’s ******. There are no elite black boxers. Look at the champions on boxrec. They’re mostly Mexican and Mexican American and have been for the last 50 years. The media will focus on the only African American champion and say he’s the best and ignore the other 30 champs. It’s ******.

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    • #72
      Yess!!!!!!!!!

      Maybe Canelo aint so bad after all! It's not Bivol or Gvozdyk but it's a great fight and Im excited for it.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
        Yess!!!!!!!!!

        Maybe Canelo aint so bad after all! It's not Bivol or Gvozdyk but it's a great fight and Im excited for it.
        A victory for Yarde could potentially lead to a big money match against Canelo in December.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          DAZN wanted GGG to fight Andrade his first fight he refused and chose Rolls. They can't tell GGG who to fight and now it's proven they can't tell Canelo who to fight either. GGG fought bums forever on HBO hell he chose to fight Vanes just last year so you can't blame that on DAZN it's not about the network. GGG chose Vanes and now chose Rolls these networks ain't picking these bums GGG has made it clear he wants unlimited Canelo fights so he can just make excuses for how he fought and why he didn't win the fight. But in the meantime he will not fight anyone with a pulse as he just chases Canelo paydays.

          If you Andrade your promoter has a conflict of interest hell Hearn has made it clear he wants Canelo/GGG 3 because that is what DAZN wants. But Andrade is your own fighter how would you feel when your promoter is actively trying to take the Canelo fight away from you? If Andrade were signed with anyone but Hearn that promoter would be pushing to make Canelo or GGG fight but Hearn is working for DAZN and trying to make Canelo fight GGG and if he doesn't wants to green light easy fights for GGG so he doesn't lose before they can cash him out against Canelo. Andrade is basically phuked in no man's land because his promoter doesn't really want EITHER fight.
          No they didnt. They dont want GGG to fight anyone good before Canelo. Its same as when GBP didnt want GGG to fight Saunders. GGG is old, overrated at this point, and can lose to any B+/A- fighter at any time at this point. He almost already did to Jacobs. Him vs Canelo is still a huge fight, him vs anyone else with a pulse is now a major risk to ruining that huge fight. Therefore, none of these corporate guys want GGG to fight anyone until Canelo-GGG is exhausted, and that's why GGG's career has been a joke, besides the Canelo fights, for like 3 years in a row.

          What, you really think GGG is suddenly scared? Of middleweights? He was the guy calling every middleweight out and being ducked by 90% of them. It's a financial thing. DAZN can risk Canelo losing because Canelo is young, prime, and has the judges on his side, so it's not really a risk. Plus Canelo hasnt taken an official loss recently anyway, so even if he does lose to Kovalev at 175, what does that matter? He can still drop down and fight GGG and it's as big as ever. But if GGG takes another loss at this age vs Andrade or someone after already almost losing to Jacobs, and then looking old and getting a draw and a loss, officially, vs Canelo, it ruins the fight.

          What's so hard to understand? Its less risky to match prime fights with top opponents than past prime fighters.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
            I did not know that, Good for Canelo for being interested in fighting Andrade who is a difficult opponent with an ugly style. Has DAZN actually said Canelo cannot fight anyone but Kovalev or GGG? I don't think that is true. I read that talks are going on for Canelo to fight Dervy and Dervy is not Kovalev or GGG. Can you explain that?
            DAZN cant force canelo to drop a title, that might even be a cause of law suit..... the moment ibf asked for a purse bid dazn had to be more flexible on that fight... that is the main reason wbc never enforced charlo fight and instead created that bs franchise belt, to avoid a conflict of interests between fighters and their own networks...

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            • #76
              Originally posted by mxtali View Post
              They reallyyyy want GGG to get his ass beat again
              For real, it makes no sense. Why wouldn't they try to get more fights out of GGG before Canelo pulls his plug lol. They would make more money off of GGG that way.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                No they didnt. They dont want GGG to fight anyone good before Canelo. Its same as when GBP didnt want GGG to fight Saunders. GGG is old, overrated at this point, and can lose to any B+/A- fighter at any time at this point. He almost already did to Jacobs. Him vs Canelo is still a huge fight, him vs anyone else with a pulse is now a major risk to ruining that huge fight. Therefore, none of these corporate guys want GGG to fight anyone until Canelo-GGG is exhausted, and that's why GGG's career has been a joke, besides the Canelo fights, for like 3 years in a row.

                What, you really think GGG is suddenly scared? Of middleweights? He was the guy calling every middleweight out and being ducked by 90% of them. It's a financial thing. DAZN can risk Canelo losing because Canelo is young, prime, and has the judges on his side, so it's not really a risk. Plus Canelo hasnt taken an official loss recently anyway, so even if he does lose to Kovalev at 175, what does that matter? He can still drop down and fight GGG and it's as big as ever. But if GGG takes another loss at this age vs Andrade or someone after already almost losing to Jacobs, and then looking old and getting a draw and a loss, officially, vs Canelo, it ruins the fight.

                What's so hard to understand? Its less risky to match prime fights with top opponents than past prime fighters.
                “TRUTH, DAZN USA tried to make the fight between GGG Boxing and I as soon as he signed. Tom Loeffler and GGG said, ‘absolutely not! We aren’t fighting Andrade in our first DAZN fight,'” said Andrade

                “I wouldn’t be fighting Maciej Sulecki and GGG Boxing wouldn’t have fought Steve Rolls if GGG would have accepted a fight with me” said Andrade


                And GGG or Loeffler has never denied this claim. GGG picked Rolls just like he picked Vanes last year which HBO didn't want either. Or did DAZN make him fight Vanes when he didn't even have a contract with them yet? lol GGG refuses to fight anyone with a pulse while he is trying to back his way into another Canelo payday just like he did before he signed with DAZN.
                Last edited by bigdunny1; 07-25-2019, 02:25 PM.

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                • #78
                  What, you really think GGG is suddenly scared? Of middleweights? He was the guy calling every middleweight out and being ducked by 90% of them. It's a financial thing. DAZN can risk Canelo losing because Canelo is young, prime, and has the judges on his side, so it's not really a risk. Plus Canelo hasnt taken an official loss recently anyway, so even if he does lose to Kovalev at 175, what does that matter? He can still drop down and fight GGG and it's as big as ever. But if GGG takes another loss at this age vs Andrade or someone after already almost losing to Jacobs, and then looking old and getting a draw and a loss, officially, vs Canelo, it ruins the fight.[/QUOTE]

                  Well... Kovalev is 36 and he is getting old, and no longer the fighter that he once was. That’s the reason for Canelo to fight him. Low risk high reward ($$$)

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by chubuk7 View Post
                    What, you really think GGG is suddenly scared? Of middleweights? He was the guy calling every middleweight out and being ducked by 90% of them. It's a financial thing. DAZN can risk Canelo losing because Canelo is young, prime, and has the judges on his side, so it's not really a risk. Plus Canelo hasnt taken an official loss recently anyway, so even if he does lose to Kovalev at 175, what does that matter? He can still drop down and fight GGG and it's as big as ever. But if GGG takes another loss at this age vs Andrade or someone after already almost losing to Jacobs, and then looking old and getting a draw and a loss, officially, vs Canelo, it ruins the fight.

                    Well... Kovalev is 36 and he is getting old, and no longer the fighter that he once was. That’s the reason for Canelo to fight him. Low risk high reward ($$$)
                    It's a financial thing alright GGG is afraid if he fights anyone legit he might lose and that canelo payday is gone if that happens. The difference is you keep blaming this on the network when we have seen the same behavior now on multiple different networks. And Andrade already exposed them telling the world DAZN tried to make GGG vs Andrade and it was GGG who said no and it was GGG who went dumpster diving to find a 35 year old career 6-8 round journeyman with no pop 81st ranked Middleweight Rolls. Stop blaming DAZN or HBO or anyone else for shyt fights that GGG hand picks. LMAO
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 07-25-2019, 02:24 PM.

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                    • #80
                      lil g's level of opposition has been gettting worse and worse fight after fight.

                      If Canelo fights Derevyanchenko and lil g knows he's guaranteed Canelo next, they'll need to visit the morgue to dig up his next stay busy opponent. His next fight could be a Weekend at Bernie's scenario.

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