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  • #31
    Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
    If you think Meatnelo vs. Kovalev is a good fight, with a weight stipulation, then you are a ****ty boxing fan.
    Has a weight stipulation been confirmed? No? Then STFU.

    If you think it's OK for Golovkin to fight bums while begging for a 3rd fight you're a ****ty boxing fan.

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    • #32
      Canelo could probably walk away from Dazn and still wouldn't be badly affected, with any network willing to pay him a lot of money for any fight. He would likely fight Golovkin again, but he'd prefer to do that in a year or two years time, not now. In the meantime, the other opponents are waiting and waiting. We don't want to see him fight the Fielding calibre, and Jacobs didn't give a good fight.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
        The only thing happening right this very minute is that team Golden Shaft are trying to weight drain and rehydration clause the **** out of Kovalev. That's exactly why they're having trouble sealing a contract. Kovalev is a ****ing idiot if he lets them dictate ANY kind of weight stipulations. Fight like a ****ing man at the actual weight and don't request someone not to eat after a weigh in or stick to fighting cans at 160.
        Kovalev, his promoter or manager none of them have once complained about weight being the reason the fight hasn't been made. They are complaining about money and that's it. The last report quoting Kovalev own promoter said the contract offer had no catchweight. Canelo offered them 3X Kovalev's career payday he has ever made. They are complaining because Kathy Duva is taking too much money out his pocket then when HBO closed shop she couldn't get Kovalev a TV deal said she had a deal with NBC done but she lied and was forced to crawl to Top Rank and sell half of his contract to Arum to get on ESPN. He now has 2 promoters so now Duva and Top Rank take money out his purse and he owes ESPN fights. He also has a mandatory fight so he has to pay off Yarde as well if he wants to fight Canelo first.

        The only issue that has been reported from both sides is Kovalev is worried after he is done paying ESPN to fight on another network, pays Yarde to step aside, then pays Bob Arum and Duva he doesn't have the money he wants left over. If Kovalev was with any other top promoter or had no promoter and was signed with Haymon he would be saving a lot of money and the fight would be done. Now they are scrambling because even paying all these guys off that's a lot of money for him to turn down with no assurance he get's the Canelo fight later if ever again especially if he fight Dervy in Oct.

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        • #34
          I hope Canelo fights 10/26.. would be so dope.. I prefer Kovalev but don’t mind who the opponent is as long as it’s NOT GGG.. that punk deserves to be shut out.. Skipper doesn’t control anything, he’s gonna learn the hard way.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
            The only thing happening right this very minute is that team Golden Shaft are trying to weight drain and rehydration clause the **** out of Kovalev. That's exactly why they're having trouble sealing a contract. Kovalev is a ****ing idiot if he lets them dictate ANY kind of weight stipulations. Fight like a ****ing man at the actual weight and don't request someone not to eat after a weigh in or stick to fighting cans at 160.
            I speak facts so this phuk boy Boxing Scene get's upset and puts me negative put me in the red? What a emotional little h0e
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 07-25-2019, 11:56 AM.

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            • #36
              I would love for Goldenboy to move over to SHO.. they need to ditch Al, he’s giving all of the good content to FOX.. Canelo would inject them with much needed energy

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                Has a weight stipulation been confirmed? No? Then STFU.

                If you think it's OK for Golovkin to fight bums while begging for a 3rd fight you're a ****ty boxing fan.
                yup idiot talking nonsene. that clown Boxing Scene just gave me Red

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  DAZN wanted GGG to fight Andrade his first fight he refused and chose Rolls. They can't tell GGG who to fight and now it's proven they can't tell Canelo who to fight either. GGG fought bums forever on HBO hell he chose to fight Vanes just last year so you can't blame that on DAZN it's not about the network. GGG chose Vanes and now chose Rolls these networks ain't picking these bums GGG has made it clear he wants unlimited Canelo fights so he can just make excuses for how he fought and why he didn't win the fight. But in the meantime he will not fight anyone with a pulse as he just chases Canelo paydays.

                  If you Andrade your promoter has a conflict of interest hell Hearn has made it clear he wants Canelo/GGG 3 because that is what DAZN wants. But Andrade is your own fighter how would you feel when your promoter is actively trying to take the Canelo fight away from you? If Andrade were signed with anyone but Hearn that promoter would be pushing to make Canelo or GGG fight but Hearn is working for DAZN and trying to make Canelo fight GGG and if he doesn't wants to green light easy fights for GGG so he doesn't lose before they can cash him out against Canelo. Andrade is basically phuked in no man's land because his promoter doesn't really want EITHER fight.
                  They told Canelo the only way he can fight Dervy is to guarantee he'll fight GGG next if he wins! That sounds like they can tell Canelo what to do! I really don't have a problem with that, however, if they can dictate terms like that to Canelo, who already fought 2 titleholders after GGG, then they should be doing the same thing to GGG! The only people they should approve for GGG is Callum Smith or Andrade!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    DAZN wanted GGG to fight Andrade his first fight he refused and chose Rolls. They can't tell GGG who to fight and now it's proven they can't tell Canelo who to fight either. GGG fought bums forever on HBO hell he chose to fight Vanes just last year so you can't blame that on DAZN it's not about the network. GGG chose Vanes and now chose Rolls these networks ain't picking these bums GGG has made it clear he wants unlimited Canelo fights so he can just make excuses for how he fought and why he didn't win the fight. But in the meantime he will not fight anyone with a pulse as he just chases Canelo paydays.

                    If you Andrade your promoter has a conflict of interest hell Hearn has made it clear he wants Canelo/GGG 3 because that is what DAZN wants. But Andrade is your own fighter how would you feel when your promoter is actively trying to take the Canelo fight away from you? If Andrade were signed with anyone but Hearn that promoter would be pushing to make Canelo or GGG fight but Hearn is working for DAZN and trying to make Canelo fight GGG and if he doesn't wants to green light easy fights for GGG so he doesn't lose before they can cash him out against Canelo. Andrade is basically phuked in no man's land because his promoter doesn't really want EITHER fight.
                    If they can tell Canelo it's "Kovalev or GGG," then they should tell GGG it's "Callum Smith or Andrade!" Andrade should be making mad noise! His silence makes him seem complicit! He's already suspect for never facing neither Charlo Brother and Lara! You would think he would be smarter by now?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      They told Canelo the only way he can fight Dervy is to guarantee he'll fight GGG next if he wins! That sounds like they can tell Canelo what to do! I really don't have a problem with that, however, if they can dictate terms like that to Canelo, who already fought 2 titleholders after GGG, then they should be doing the same thing to GGG! The only people they should approve for GGG is Callum Smith or Andrade!
                      Chris Mannix said that to put spin that DAZN didn't totally cave in. If you have the ability to tell someone who they have to fight they you won't be approving a different fight and asking the guy please pinky promise you will fight GGG next LMAO

                      Canelo took the Sept fight away from them and told them I will fight who I want and i'll wait until Dec and you can lose money every month I don't fight. His team said last week they wouldn't fight until dec. Only a couple days later DAZN was approving new opponents Canelo wanted to fight to get him back ASAP in Oct. FACT Canelo is fighting who he wants and not GGG next which we all know is what DAZN wants. Chris Mannix went from reporting months ago that DAZN is going to force canelo to fight GGG not up to him he won't be allowed to fight anyone else. Then he reported weeks ago Canelo wants to fight Kovalev but DAZN will only approve Kovalev and if not that fight he has to fight GGG. Now Mannix is reporting DAZN is allowing Canelo to fight Dervy but wants a pinky promise that he will fight GGG next. Seems like one guy is telling the other guys what he is doing and the other guy is marking a line in the sand and constantly crossing it out and moving backwards. DAZN has no leverage over Canelo and it's proven if they did he would be fighting GGG next.
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 07-25-2019, 12:06 PM.

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