Comments Thread For: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance

[Citizen Koba]

WOW so they know he tested postive for PEDS 1 week before the fight and let it go ahead anyway? WOW imagine if Rivas got badly hurt or put in a coma??

That's kinda fucked up. I can understand the dilemma... due process is necessary and they shouldn't penalise a dude if he might still be innocent, but in a sport where a fighters health (or indeed life) might be at stake the opponent should be given that information and given the option to withdraw without penalty pending further investigation.

'Course, this is boxing though, possibly the shadiest and most poorly run major sport on the planet, so...

[Citizen Koba]

Worth noting that VADA did not catch this however, but that it was UKAD.

[thesmokingman]

Great post and humor.
Green K.
Love that line in bold. Make that up or saw it?

Hehe, thanks, I try. The bolded part, I just rehashed what Fluid Sr. always said, BAXING! And the Mayweather tagline cleaning up the sport of boxing with his favorite intravenous fluids full of vitamins.

[thesmokingman]

Worth noting that VADA did not catch this however, but that it was UKAD.

VADA wasn't handling the testing.

[-Kev-]

Is there anyone who calls out Wilder who isn’t doping or has been caught doping in the past?

These guys are so confident calling him out cause they’re juiced to the gills.

[andocom]

Has UKAD (or VADA) ever let anyone fight directly after a failed drug test, even if it was cannabis I imagine there would be protocols to follow, surely you would be provisionally suspended pending B sample or hearing?

Also has there been any other reporting with more info, apart from boxingscene which just has unnamed sources? With a boxing death just days ago this could end very badly for someone. If true UKAD or BBBoC are in massive trouble, can't see how it would be up to Hearn's to notify Rivas, what kind of insanity would allow one promoter to know and not tell the other.

[Citizen Koba]

I just told you,that tweet merely means they are signed up to cbp which barely tests,I am not saying UKAD tested them based on anything other than the fact vada bans fighters immediately & the article stating that ukad has a policy of not banning til up to a yr or 2 later which is consistent with varcacel s statements & fury being absolved merely because as in ukads own words he would sue them into bankruptcy due to his wages being more than their entire yearly budget,which means hed be entitled to lost wages if he won the lawsuit

VADA doesn't ban dudes immediately. In fact VADA doesn't ban anybody. They report their findings to the camp (though not necessarily the opponents camp), the governing body in charge of the fight (usually the relevant SAC in the US) and the relevant sanctioning body. Typically it's the governing body that makes the decision on punitive action (eg the NSAC on Canelo) and it's a process that can take months.

And it's not UKAD policy to ban up to a year or two later, it's policy to follow due process, but occasionally this can take a long time, as can any legal process, especially if the principals are being uncooperative.

[CaptainWalrus]

Using PEDs then punching an opponent should be a criminal offence. Sport in general is bad enough. But playing with lives is not cool.

[CaptainWalrus]

No surprise at all now when a fighter is named for PEDs. Wide, wide use!

[thesmokingman]

Has UKAD (or VADA) ever let anyone fight directly after a failed drug test, even if it was cannabis I imagine there would be protocols to follow, surely you would be provisionally suspended pending B sample or hearing?

Also has there been any other reporting with more info, apart from boxingscene which just has unnamed sources? With a boxing death just days ago this could end very badly for someone. If true UKAD or BBBoC are in massive trouble, can't see how it would be up to Hearn's to notify Rivas, what kind of insanity would allow one promoter to know and not tell the other.

After an adverse finding, the sanctioning body, ie. the WBC have to be notified, then the fighter himself. UKAD did not do that. It's all kinds of corruption that UKAD did nothing but notify Matchroom and Hearn.

In all cases the fight is supposed to be stopped. UKAD/BBBoC is using the excuse that due to their process, they could not say anything, which is flat out BS and lies. Fights get stopped for doping offenses all the time. After it's stopped is when the guilty fighter can then appeal, which is his right.

Oh, and it doesn't matter the substance. The protocol is the same whether it is reefer or nandrolone.

They did it properly for Povetkin, but what happened here lol?