Why do people rate Canelo's resume so high, even relative to GGG's?

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #221
    Originally posted by Boxing1013
    Honestly man...no offense sincerely...but you seem either incapable or unwilling to have a real boxing discussion...your insistence on trying to twist my words around and seeming inability to understand pretty basic things I've said is odd lol...I just don't really have much else to say to ya...I can explain it to ya but I can't understand it for ya



    no..... you can talk shlt, and then completely fail to back it up

    which Golovkin scrub " could " have beaten Canelo..... ?

    answer the question, you shlt-talking fcuk-monkey

    also..... explain to us why the list of Golovkin misses, is MUCH bigger than the list of Golovkin hits?

    where is the comparable list of Canelo misses that I asked for, you ignorant pom-pom waver.....?



    HiTS.....

    Golovkin.....
    - Jacobs *
    - Murray

    Canelo.....
    - Golovkin
    - Cotto
    - Mosley
    - Lara*
    - Trout
    - Jacobs

    MiSSES.....


    Golovkin.....
    - Lara
    - Cotto
    - Mora
    - Saunders
    - Andrade
    - Charlo
    - Derevyanchenko

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      #222
      Originally posted by Boxing1013
      Honestly man...no offense sincerely...but you seem either incapable or unwilling to have a real boxing discussion...your insistence on trying to twist my words around and seeming inability to understand pretty basic things I've said is odd lol...I just don't really have much else to say to ya...I can explain it to ya but I can't understand it for ya






      FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog







      NOBODY called Jacobs elite before he fought Golovkin

      Plodkin made Jacobs great

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        #223
        Originally posted by ruedboy
        Alarez beat the cream of English boxing. Everybody remembers the Khan KO and no denying the Khan Man looked liked Mr Pakistan at a ready 155 pounds.
        Don't forget Liam "Beefy" Smith probably the most avoided Jr MW Champ at the time.
        Who can deny Canelo made history when he moved up to face that 168 monster, Rocky Fielding.
        People may call them paper champs but they're still champs and possible future HOF's.
        Not to mention being completely embarrassed by Mayweather. Cotto gave him a hard fight even thought he was well past his prime and the much smaller Mosely was shot when he fought him. Canelo is a good fighter but these names on his resume are just names. They weren't the great fighters they were in the past.

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          #224
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          Not to mention being completely embarrassed by Mayweather. Cotto gave him a hard fight even thought he was well past his prime and the much smaller Mosely was shot when he fought him. Canelo is a good fighter but these names on his resume are just names. They weren't the great fighters they were in the past.




          FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog

          Cotto Mosley and Lara... are all MUCH better than a huge underdog

          think about that for a second, Tony Baloney

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            #225
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            Not to mention being completely embarrassed by Mayweather. Cotto gave him a hard fight even thought he was well past his prime and the much smaller Mosely was shot when he fought him. Canelo is a good fighter but these names on his resume are just names. They weren't the great fighters they were in the past.
            Agreed. Alvarez is good but once he stepped up in class he never KO'd or even dominated any top guy.
            Cotto was probably the weakest MW Champ in history and both Smith and Fielding were paper champs, but those are the klnd of weak title holders he goes after. He cherry picks and throws in rehydration clauses and says "he'll fight anybody" That's just BS.

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              #226
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Both great records for their eras, but this being boxing, haters gonna hate!
              I agree my friend...appreciate your feedback

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                #227
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                you said..... that you do not see any real difference between Golovkin beating Murray and Lemieux, and Canelo beating Cotto and Lara
                Nah I'm pretty sure I just said that GGG stopping and dominating Lemieux and Murray was more impressive than Canelo going 12 with Cotto and Lara and having tight fights with them...Lara was great but not really much different difficulty than Murray was at the time they fought GGG and Nelo.

                Stopping prime Cotto would be a great win...going 12 rounds with him at 155 in a close fight is a pretty good win...GGG stopping Lemieux who had a belt in dominating fashion was a really good win imo...just how I analyzed all of that.

                If GGG went 12 with Cotto at 160 I would say it wasn't a great win...if he edged out Lara I would say it was a good win but would not really say he excelled in either of those if he had tight fights with them.

                Tbh I don't really see the rationale for hyping up Canelo's performances against Mosley and Cotto...I would expect a stoppage from Nelo against those versions of Cotto and Mosley...Lara has always been a good win though, I give Nelo full credit for that one.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog







                  NOBODY called Jacobs elite before he fought Golovkin

                  Plodkin made Jacobs great
                  Danny was downgraded because there were doubts about his chin. His chin held up well against the best two fighters in the division and he fought well against both of them. He's avery good fighter as he proved against Canelo and Golovkin.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog

                    Cotto Mosley and Lara... are all MUCH better than a huge underdog

                    think about that for a second, Tony Baloney
                    The versions of Cotto and Mosley that fought Canelo would not beat Jacobs I'm certain of that. If Jacobs had fought Mosley he would be ridiculed because he's way too big and Mosley was shot. Lara would not be favored by the bookies to beat Jacobs.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Boxing1013
                      Nah I'm pretty sure I just said that GGG stopping and dominating Lemieux and Murray was more impressive than Canelo going 12 with Cotto and Lara and having tight fights with them...Lara was great but not really much different difficulty than Murray was at the time they fought GGG and Nelo.

                      Stopping prime Cotto would be a great win...going 12 rounds with him at 155 in a close fight is a pretty good win...GGG stopping Lemieux who had a belt in dominating fashion was a really good win imo...just how I analyzed all of that.

                      If GGG went 12 with Cotto at 160 I would say it wasn't a great win...if he edged out Lara I would say it was a good win but would not really say he excelled in either of those if he had tight fights with them.

                      Tbh I don't really see the rationale for hyping up Canelo's performances against Mosley and Cotto...I would expect a stoppage from Nelo against those versions of Cotto and Mosley...Lara has always been a good win though, I give Nelo full credit for that one.



                      and now, EVERYONE who knows boxing can see that you are a casual-fan idiot who has no idea about levels/styles

                      honestly, Lemieux is a scrub..... he is the very definition of average, there is no other way to put it..... there is nothing great about a heavy-handed guy knocking out a low-skilled static opponent..... beating Lara was a much better accomplishment, and much more difficult to achieve..... Canelo would likely have also stopped Pepe Le Pew, and Golovkin ducked Lara for a reason

                      you are a total idiot

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