Why do people rate Canelo's resume so high, even relative to GGG's?

[aboutfkntime]

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Murray, Lemieux, Monroe > Lara, Cotto, Trout



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[New England]

Not really...Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was...Shane was also fighting at 154 vs 147 with the Floyd fight you cited...going 12 with an old fat shot Mosley is not a better win imo than GGG crushing a 2 year inactive good JMW at 160 imo...it just isn't, sorry.

Vanes imo also got beat there because of the size, not really inactivity...he looked more or less the same he always has...many gave him round 1 due to the nice combo he landed even though GGG was outlanding him heavily...he just couldn't compete physically with GGG and that is a recipe for disaster.

Never really understood the slighting of Vanes to the extent that it happens tbh...he was obviously one of the best JMWs and showed he was basically the same level as Andrade JeCharlo and Lara...which is really good...so yeah never really understood the over the top nature of that stuff...but that's what you get when GGG is involved I suppose lol.

I would also add that Mosley is one of Canelo's top 10 wins...Vanes is not one of GGG's top 10 wins.

vanes was a career JMW. unlike mosley, a hall of famer, he had never, you know, actually done anything. 2 years prior shane put the best fighter on the planet on f#cking ***** street. he was on the pound for pound list when he fought floyd! vanes had no fights for 2 years! and you're in here talking about the combination vanes landed on golovkin . you can pretend he wasn't washed up based on everything he showed you in the 2 round beating he took, i think you're being dishonest in addition to not knowing what the f#ck you're talking about.


vanes only lost to golovkin because of the size, guys. you know, the small, career middlweight all the way back to the amateurs, who actually gave up about half an inch in height and had a massive, 1.5" reach advantage.


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[aboutfkntime]

vanes was a career JMW. unlike mosley, he had never, you know, actually done anything. 2 years prior shane put the best fighter on the planet on f#cking ***** street. and you're in here talking about the combination vanes landed on golovkin . you can pretend he wasn't washed up based on everything he showed you in the 2 round beating he took, i think you're being dishonest in addition to not knowing what the f#ck you're talking about.


vanes only lost to golovkin because of the size, guys. you know, the small, career middlweight all the way back to the amateurs, who actually gave up about half an inch in height and had a massive, 1.5" reach advantage.


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[VERSION1 (V1)]

If he went 12 rounds with him or had any real trouble I wouldn't list it as even an OK win...but he dusted him in 2...I find that impressive just as I find Nelo doing that to Kirkland impressive.

Difference though is Kirkland is a top 10 win for Nelo and that Vanes win is not in GGG's top 10.

everyone knew he was going to get dusted had not fought in two years short training camp what did you really expect it he was there to get ok real low risk real low reward fight for GGG

[Boxing_1013]

according to you, Pepe Le Pew is Golovkin's 2nd best win

but GBP could not sell that fight for Canelo, because Lemieux is such a scrub

do you still think that Murray and Lemieux are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara and Cotto were for Canelo?

oh, and how could I forget..... do you still think that Monroe is a better win for G, than Trout was for Canelo?..... you casual-fan moron

David was GGG's 5th best win according to what I saw...or 3rd if you don't count the 2 Canelo wins...then Jacobs and Murray before David.

Yeah the opposition edge was probably slight for Canelo...but G was much more impressive in his wins over those guys so edge to GGG there...I don't really rate Trout as better than Monroe and I think their records bear that out...yeah Cotto looks good...but Trout lost every other fight he has been in...and that wasn't really Miguel Cotto he beat in my eyes...if Trout had done anything since then you would have a case he hasn't ya know.

Lol...dude...GBP was trying to make that Lemieux fight forever...he has always basically been the 2nd option now for the last 5 Canelo fights or so...Canelo just took a different path...either an easier fight (Fielding/Chavez/Smith) or more money (GGG twice)...or DAZN forcing his hand a bit (Jacobs).

[Boxing_1013]

everyone knew he was going to get dusted had not fought in two years short training camp what did you really expect it he was there to get ok real low risk real low reward fight for GGG

If I thought he looked bad in there I would adjust my opinion of it ya know...but yeah I remember watching the Lara Vanes fights and Vanes looked the same to me vs GGG as he always has...I think stopping him that quickly was impressive...if that was Charlo that did it I would say the same thing...all I can say I guess

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[Boxing_1013]

vanes was a career JMW. unlike mosley, a hall of famer, he had never, you know, actually done anything. 2 years prior shane put the best fighter on the planet on f#cking ***** street. he was on the pound for pound list when he fought floyd! vanes had no fights for 2 years! and you're in here talking about the combination vanes landed on golovkin . you can pretend he wasn't washed up based on everything he showed you in the 2 round beating he took, i think you're being dishonest in addition to not knowing what the f#ck you're talking about.


vanes only lost to golovkin because of the size, guys. you know, the small, career middlweight all the way back to the amateurs, who actually gave up about half an inch in height and had a massive, 1.5" reach advantage.


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you want a shovel, pal? all you gotta do is talk a little more, i think.

Ring rust is usually evident right away...all I can say is Vanes looked the same in there as he did when I watched him face Lara years prior...if you feel differently...well hey good for you lol

Also I don't think you necessarily read what I said about why the Mosley win/situation was different than the hyping up of Mosley that you were touting...tbh anyone touting Canelo going 12 with 40 Mosley at JMW...I mean why lol...I will post again and highlight that part of it that you may have missed

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Not really...Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was...Shane was also fighting at 154 vs 147 with the Floyd fight you cited...going 12 with an old fat shot Mosley is not a better win imo than GGG crushing a 2 year inactive good JMW at 160 imo...it just isn't, sorry.

Vanes imo also got beat there because of the size, not really inactivity...he looked more or less the same he always has...many gave him round 1 due to the nice combo he landed even though GGG was outlanding him heavily...he just couldn't compete physically with GGG and that is a recipe for disaster.

Never really understood the slighting of Vanes to the extent that it happens tbh...he was obviously one of the best JMWs and showed he was basically the same level as Andrade JeCharlo and Lara...which is really good...so yeah never really understood the over the top nature of that stuff...but that's what you get when GGG is involved I suppose lol.

I would also add that Mosley is one of Canelo's top 10 wins...Vanes is not one of GGG's top 10 wins.

[Boxing_1013]

vanes was a career JMW. unlike mosley, a hall of famer,

So...if GGG went 12 with that Mosley would you call that a good win? I wouldn't...would be a little embarrassing imo...idk if you're a big Mosley fan or something lol...he was definitely great...just not at that time and not at that weight...sorry if that bothers you idk lol...just stating pretty obvious things I think.

[ruedboy]

Let's give credit where credit is due. Canelo dominated Mosely to win a UD against the former 3 division world champ and future Hall of Famer (of course Sugar Shane was over 40 years old, 2-4-1 in his last 6 fights, with the draw coming against Sergio Mora).But hey Sugar was a former champ and a nice scalp for Canelo (Did Sugar have any hair left?)