Originally posted by amagnin
All these names being thrown about, but where is M.Cotto?
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And I believe a large part of his problem was the drain from making weight at 140. That is why it is imperative that he move up to 147. I am not saying that he has a great chin, but it is average. Torres is a big puncher by anybody's standards and he landed shots on Cotto that fazed him but didn't KO him. Plus nobody is a perfect fighter...Cotto may not have the best chin or defense but his body punching is vicious and his power is very good (ask Paulie).Originally posted by Lizard KingCotto didnt take the feather fisted Malignaggi blows with ease as anyone should from Malignaggi. Malignaggi fought in a style he knew he was weak at and still made Cotto have a difficult evening.Comment
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His power must have been off when he face Malignaggi because he only KDed a outboxer who was forced to be a inboxer one time. Cotto is a hugely entertaining fighter and even if I disagree with him over the way his Malignaggi fight went I still like the guy. I like Cotto much the same way I like Gatti in his entertainment value, not as a superior boxer in the ring. Cotto has a large flaw in his weak chin, hes been rocked by more than just Torres, and his horrible feet chin movement + bad defense.Originally posted by amagninAnd I believe a large part of his problem was the drain from making weight at 140. That is why it is imperative that he move up to 147. I am not saying that he has a great chin, but it is average. Torres is a big puncher by anybody's standards and he landed shots on Cotto that fazed him but didn't KO him. Plus nobody is a perfect fighter...Cotto may not have the best chin or defense but his body punching is vicious and his power is very good (ask Paulie).
DeMarcus Corley who is anything but a power puncher had Cotto staggering around the ring.Last edited by Hous; 07-21-2006, 02:43 PM.Comment
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I wouldn't say Corley is a weak puncher. He had Floyd stunned as well and I have only seen Floyd stunned one other time in his career (against Judah). Plus Cotto was stumbling around the ring but he still won the fight by KO. I see your comparison to Gatti but Cotto is much more skilled.Originally posted by Lizard KingHis power must have been off when he face Malignaggi because he only KDed a outboxer who was forced to be a inboxer one time. Cotto is a hugely entertaining fighter and even if I disagree with him over the way his Malignaggi fight went I still like the guy. I like Cotto much the same way I like Gatti in his entertainment value, not as a superior boxer in the ring. Cotto has a large flaw in his weak chin, hes been rocked by more than just Torres, and his horrible feet chin movement + bad defense.
DeMarcus Corley who is anything but a power puncher had Cotto staggering around the ring.Comment
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Floyd is a skilled slick boxer with great defense and when you have that then you can fight at different weights but you just dont know about these other guys like Cotto, Hatton, & Margarito because they depend on there size advantage and power and when they move up they arent no bigger then everyone else.
Sometimes they fight better because they were struggling to make weight and sometimes they get killed because all they had going for them was there size advantage. We wont know about Cotto until he fights at that weightComment
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Very fair assessment. It remains to be seen, but I think Cotto's power carries him. If you can break bones in somebody's face, the extra weight won't dampen a punch like that all too much.Originally posted by DLTFloyd is a skilled slick boxer with great defense and when you have that then you can fight at different weights but you just dont know about these other guys like Cotto, Hatton, & Margarito because they depend on there size advantage and power and when they move up they arent no bigger then everyone else.
Sometimes they fight better because they were struggling to make weight and sometimes they get killed because all they had going for them was there size advantage. We wont know about Cotto until he fights at that weightComment
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Chop Chop did rock him with a good punch. But that was the only time Chop Chop hurt him, and Chop was dominated every other round of the fight.Originally posted by TheGreat1i'm refering to pauly and chop Chop
Paulie rocked Cott? Your wrong here I didn't see any point where Cotto looked like he was rocked.
I also think that Cotto has faced good competition that was getting steadily tougher upto his fight with Paulie. I think that his last fight should've been the one where he stepped up the competition to the elite level and went against an Elite.
However I wouldn't call Cotto protected he has faced very good competition so far and is still young. Hatton's first 26 fights were not as tough as Cotto's and Hatton is still taking on lower tier fighters such as Urkal.
I think it is appropriate to criticize Cotto some what but its more appropriate to criticize the entire welterweight division as a whole. This division has the deepest talent pool yet its top fighters manage to avoid colliding with each other. I mean what the HELL are all the managers at welterweight Ex-AirTraffic controllers?Comment
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i think cotto needs more easy fights. he is still pretty green and has a chance to be a really good boxer. but i think it would be disaster if he lost at this point in his career so he should play it safe for a couple more fights.Comment
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I totally agree with you... cotto has definitely faced real opposition as opposed to alot of these other paper thin posers in the division. Let's keep it 100% on here. there was no time that Paulie rocked cotto in that fight. may be after cotto hurt his hand paulie might have won a few rounds. But at no time did cotto look like he was in trouble. if Gatti get's in there with cotto he's history. and if baldy can get by arturo. he may have a fighting chance with cotto. But a very very slim one.Originally posted by Left2bodyChop Chop did rock him with a good punch. But that was the only time Chop Chop hurt him, and Chop was dominated every other round of the fight.
Paulie rocked Cott? Your wrong here I didn't see any point where Cotto looked like he was rocked.
I also think that Cotto has faced good competition that was getting steadily tougher upto his fight with Paulie. I think that his last fight should've been the one where he stepped up the competition to the elite level and went against an Elite.
However I wouldn't call Cotto protected he has faced very good competition so far and is still young. Hatton's first 26 fights were not as tough as Cotto's and Hatton is still taking on lower tier fighters such as Urkal.
I think it is appropriate to criticize Cotto some what but its more appropriate to criticize the entire welterweight division as a whole. This division has the deepest talent pool yet its top fighters manage to avoid colliding with each other. I mean what the HELL are all the managers at welterweight Ex-AirTraffic controllers?Comment
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