If Spence is SO GOOD, why doesn’t he seek Undisputed at 154?! Age matters

[Thuglife Nelo]

And he wonders why I didn't respond to this dumb ass statement he made in my topic



Now do you realize how ****** your comment to me was?

Bruh ain’t worried about you. I told you to keep it 100! Don’t get soft! You guys go into panic mode when Al Haymon’s design is questioned.

Be he just an advisor doe!

[boliodogs]

You start thread after thread after thread hating on two of the best fighters in the world. GGG and Spence. Spence is a natural welterweight so that's where he fights. GGG is a natural middleweight so that's where he fights. You Keep insisting they go fight above their best weight or they are pieces of sht. They beat the best at their weight and that is all they should have to do to be considered outstanding fighters. GGG has arguably never lost and Spence has never lost. You keep wanting them to go up in weight just praying a bigger man can beat them. Crawford is also a natural welterweight who should fight at his best weight. You are totally obsessed with this moving up in weight thing. All fighters should fight at their best weight. It's just ****** for a boxer to fight above his best weight. Look what happened to Mikey, Donaire and Gonzalez when they fought too far above their best weight. They got creamed by naturally bigger fighters. Just leave these good fighters alone and let them fight at the weight they want. If Spence can beat any welterweight in the world then he is great and that's all he has to do. He doesn't have to fight middleweights just to make you happy.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You start thread after thread after thread hating on two of the best fighters in the world. GGG and Spence. Spence is a natural welterweight so that's where he fights. GGG is a natural middleweight so that's where he fights. You Keep insisting they go fight above their best weight or they are pieces of sht. They beat the best at their weight and that is all they should have to do to be considered outstanding fighters. GGG has arguably never lost and Spence has never lost. You keep wanting them to go up in weight just praying a bigger man can beat them. Crawford is also a natural welterweight who should fight at his best weight. You are totally obsessed with this moving up in weight thing. All fighters should fight at their best weight. It's just ****** for a boxer to fight above his best weight. Look what happened to Mikey, Donaire and Gonzalez when they fought too far above their best weight. They got creamed by naturally bigger fighters. Just leave these good fighters alone and let them fight at the weight they want. If Spence can beat any welterweight in the world then he is great and that's all he has to do. He doesn't have to fight middleweights just to make you happy.

''hating'' is saying ''this guy is a bum....'' or ''this guy sucks'' blah blah. I'm no casual mayne.

My questions are based on standards, practices, and models in the sport of boxing. Spence is an elite fighter. I don't care if you don't like my opinion that he should already be fighting at 154. Some fans of the science don't know any better. At his age, now, is the time to aim for greatness.

[ssc73]

I PRAY that Crawford goes to 154 and wins a title there. This way all the current 154 PBC Champs will want Crawford, and Haymon will be rinsing the Spence 147 narrative over and over. Is Porter, Swift Garcia, Thurman challenging like Lubin, Hurd, J Rock, Lara?

You realize virtually all of the top fighters at 154 are Haymon fighters too?

Here's the tracking question. Let's say you're the to rated fighter in the world, you just unified four stairs at 149 and you are ready for 147 where the top 5-6 guys are ALL big money fights..... Why with the sign with ESPN and make yourself the odd man out?

He'll get Spence. But as a PBC fighter and you want to go for undisputed, you take the first shot you get-Brook, then Thurman is tired up..... Garcia is a good name while you wait for guys to get healed/commitments handled.

How do the build Spence-Crawford into a bigger fight? Take out Porter and Thurman...... Maybe Crawford can get Danny now that he's done with China Khan? We'll see... But the time they fight they will both be fully polished and in top form. Make Brook will take Crawford??

Crawford is outside looking in because he made A TERRIBLE business decision....... Both Danny and Mikey Garcia, Porter, Thurman and Spence made the right choice and regained loyal..... Pac did EXACTLY what Crawford should have done. Arum has NOBODY at 147 and they will do all they feed to squeeze him out of any of those potential mashups......

[Thuglife Nelo]

You realize virtually all of the top fighters at 154 are Haymon fighters too?

Here's the tracking question. Let's say you're the to rated fighter in the world, you just unified four stairs at 149 and you are ready for 147 where the top 5-6 guys are ALL big money fights..... Why with the sign with ESPN and make yourself the odd man out?

He'll get Spence. But as a PBC fighter and you want to go for undisputed, you take the first shot you get-Brook, then Thurman is tired up..... Garcia is a good name while you wait for guys to get healed/commitments handled.

How do the build Spence-Crawford into a bigger fight? Take out Porter and Thurman...... Maybe Crawford can get Danny now that he's done with China Khan? We'll see... But the time they fight they will both be fully polished and in top form. Make Brook will take Crawford??

Crawford is outside looking in because he made A TERRIBLE business decision....... Both Danny and Mikey Garcia, Porter, Thurman and Spence made the right choice and regained loyal..... Pac did EXACTLY what Crawford should have done. Arum has NOBODY at 147 and they will do all they feed to squeeze him out of any of those potential mashups......

Crawford is a special fighter. He shouldn't be wasting time at 147 anyways

[Dean_Razorback]

spence wouldn't be such a 'monster' at 154 lbs. there are big guys there

[millcitymauler]

''hating'' is saying ''this guy is a bum....'' or ''this guy sucks'' blah blah. I'm no casual mayne.

My questions are based on standards, practices, and models in the sport of boxing. Spence is an elite fighter. I don't care if you don't like my opinion that he should already be fighting at 154. Some fans of the science don't know any better. At his age, now, is the time to aim for greatness.

Not yet. Now is the time for Spence to fight another full-fledged WW if he gets by the undersized Shawn Porter. Little Mikey, and Little Shawn are hardly decent prep for Hurd or Williams.

[Scipio2009]

I PRAY that Crawford goes to 154 and wins a title there. This way all the current 154 PBC Champs will want Crawford, and Haymon will be rinsing the Spence 147 narrative over and over. Is Porter, Swift Garcia, Thurman challenging like Lubin, Hurd, J Rock, Lara?

Because he has business to handle first.

First Shawn Porter, then the Thurman-Pacquiao winner, before likely fighting Danny Garcia and then fighting the WBC/WBA/IBF 154lb champion (if it's not Jermell Charlo; share the same trainer).

Spence is in no rush, has the frame to eventually be a sturdy 160lb fighter, and has time.

Terence Crawford has basically maxed out at 147lbs, took the guaranteed money on offer from Top Rank, and took said money knowing full well that Top Rank didn't have anyone for him to fight and that Top Rank would openly refuse to send him over to where there were guys for him to fight. lol

[Thuglife Nelo]

Because he has business to handle first.

First Shawn Porter, then the Thurman-Pacquiao winner, before likely fighting Danny Garcia and then fighting the WBC/WBA/IBF 154lb champion (if it's not Jermell Charlo; share the same trainer).

Spence is in no rush, has the frame to eventually be a sturdy 160lb fighter, and has time.

Terence Crawford has basically maxed out at 147lbs, took the guaranteed money on offer from Top Rank, and took said money knowing full well that Top Rank didn't have anyone for him to fight and that Top Rank would openly refuse to send him over to where there were guys for him to fight. lol

It's time for us to be anarchists bruh! It's better for boxing. That's the only way for all of us to enjoy accelerated P4P rankings.

Canelo got things to do.
Crawford got things to do.
Spence got things to do.
Inoue got things to do.
Usyk got things to do.
Davis
Loma..

etc...

it is the true essence of best fighting the best.

Crawford should go to 154. I most guarantee it'll put pressure on Spence and all of industry will acknowledge it. It's the only logical thing to do