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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    #191
    Originally posted by NachoMan
    Well, its not that he gives up full control of his career, but if he wants that DAZN money, then yeah, he'll fight who he's told. Why would anyone expect that a fighter would get hundreds of millions of guaranteed money with no conditions?
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
    Kofkd and you actually make excellent points....from the perspectives of both dazn and golden boy. It’s quite the pickle....a true Mexican standoff. We are seeing the true weakness of the dazn model here. There is little difference of reward between lesser fights and what is in effect ppv level fights
    Canelo is not giving up that much control of his career when he had other lucrative options.

    If they really had that much control of his career the fight would be made and we wouldn't be having this discussion, right?

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      #192
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      I don't think Jacobs was in the contract, but Jacobs got promised a shot by DAZN & he got it.

      I'm 99.9% sure there is wording in the contact that gives DAZN leverage with opponents, but I highly doubt it names specific fighters, GGG or otherwise. But I don't think you need to name specific opponents cuz I bet they can also say we'll pay you $20M for the opponent of your choice or $40M for GGG or something along those lines or not unlike TR/Arum does in a different way when guys don't agree to options or doesn't sign an extension.
      and canelo hasn't even fought jacobs until that point.... canelo already fought lilg twice (imo he won both)

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      • bigjavi973
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        #193
        Originally posted by Elotero
        I agree. Canelo signed a contract and he is obligated to fulfill its terms. The only one ****ing around here is Oscar. If they dont fulfill those contractual obligations I can see oscar getting sued to smithereens.
        where does it say on that contract that there must be a 3rd lilg fight?

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        • T-Man
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          #194
          Canelo ducked GGG from go. He vacated a belt back in 2014 or 2015 to avoid GGG in his prime (knock out artist). Canelo also found a way out of the immediate rematch of their first clash. Then tested positive for PED'S.

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          • bigjavi973
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            #195
            Originally posted by JuniorTorres720
            I spoke about this very issue right after the Canelo/Jacobs fight. https://********/eOkjHOW8EcM

            You have to believe that DAZN has influence over who Canelo and GGG fight. Sure, they can understand a tune up. But this is why they invested nearly half a bil in these two. No way Golden Boy is gonna be able to call ALL the shots.
            dude are you even old enough to have an account here? You have to be legally 18 you know

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #196
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              canelo already fought lilg twice (imo he won both)
              You do realize you are in the minority who had Canelo 2-0 doe right? There's more people who think GGG should be up 2-0 than Canelo should be up 2-0.

              Personally I got it 1-0-1 GGG, but obviously to me both fights were hair thin & coulda gone either way so I could see any result in both fights & deemed it fair enough.

              The main thing with this third fight is that its the biggest fight to make at 160 & potentially boxing as a whole & DAZN needs to make big fights to grow their platform.

              And its in Canelo's interest to help that along as things stand cuz he's getting 365M this time around, but if DAZN is the player its trying to be in 5 years Canelo's next deal with them might be a billion dollar deal or something complately insane.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                You do realize you are in the minority who had Canelo 2-0 doe right? There's more people who think GGG should be up 2-0 than Canelo should be up 2-0.

                Personally I got it 1-0-1 GGG, but obviously to me both fights were hair thin & coulda gone either way so I could see any result in both fights & deemed it fair enough.

                The main thing with this third fight is that its the biggest fight to make at 160 & potentially boxing as a whole & DAZN needs to make big fights to grow their platform.

                And its in Canelo's interest to help that along as things stand cuz he's getting 365M this time around, but if DAZN is the player its trying to be in 5 years Canelo's next deal with them might be a billion dollar deal or something complately insane.
                if I remember correctly on the fight thread I believe I had the first one a draw and canelo winning the second fight..... I would have to go back to the thread to be 100% of that but Im sure thats what I put at the moment that it happened etc

                imo the first fight canelo made ggg miss ALOT. When ggg had his back on the ropes for some reason he was pitty pattying shots there. If I remember ggg's compubox stats where extremely low compared to any of his previous fights with any of them.

                2nd fight was closer imo

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                • NachoMan
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Canelo is not giving up that much control of his career when he had other lucrative options.

                  If they really had that much control of his career the fight would be made and we wouldn't be having this discussion, right?
                  Stay tuned for the official announcement. The ONLY reason DAZN gave GGG a deal is to make the Canelo trilogy fight. It's happening next, probably in NYC.

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                  • JuniorTorres720
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    dude are you even old enough to have an account here? You have to be legally 18 you know
                    I’m 27 though? Lol

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      if I remember correctly on the fight thread I believe I had the first one a draw and canelo winning the second fight..... I would have to go back to the thread to be 100% of that but Im sure thats what I put at the moment that it happened etc
                      I had it 6-6 the first time & 7-5 GGG the 2nd time (won money on Canelo doe lol). Either way its super close between these two & that should be more appealing to fans one would think. It doesn't seem to, but I'm not understanding why unless people are fanboying on Canelo or hating on GGG, which a lot of the people who don't wanna see a third fight seem to be promoting.

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