Floyd-JMM/Floyd-canelo? Which CW fight is the worse?

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  • Roadblock
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    #11
    Originally posted by daggum
    yes because pac chose 147 for oscar. pac was the a-side for htat fight?
    So that makes it a big win beating a guy that was totally drained to 145lbs .

    Dont matter who wanted it, Manny beat a dead man, the 20lb bigger version Floyd beat would stop Manny.

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      #12
      Originally posted by chirorickyp
      CW or not they didn't win a minute of any round. Floyd also landed big punches. Strangely he couldn't do that against Pacquiao.
      Well whatever floyd did it was more then Manny because....you know......Manny lost

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        #13
        Neither. No one made them take those fights.

        They took their chance and came up short.

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        • daggum
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          #14
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          So that makes it a big win beating a guy that was totally drained to 145lbs .

          Dont matter who wanted it, Manny beat a dead man, the 20lb bigger version Floyd beat would stop Manny.
          your argument was that he was a weight manipulator. now it doesnt matter who wanted it? lol ok. how was he a weight manipulator for that fight if it wasnt him that chose it? then you tried to change your argument to it wasnt a big win because oscar was drained. that was never your argument. you gotta boxingscene better than this.

          almost all boxers with bargaining power will use that power to help them win. pac was champ at 140 and fought cotto who was champ at 147 at 145. ok not the best thing but not as bad as 2 champs in the same division fighting at 152 for example...

          bringing up guys like rios and algeiri? thats not weight manipulation. pac was a 147 pound fighter and they fought at 147. if spence fights williams at 154 williams is manipulating the weight? if callum smith fights kovalev at 175 is kovalev manipulating the weight? makes no sense. you can say he was bringing up smaller guys to pick on which is true but thats pretty common in boxing and not exclusive to pac.

          floyd-canelo and floyd-marquez were much worse than anything pac ever did. pac never drained a guy in his same division to gain an advantage and he never refused to make weight to gain an advantage. those are worse offenses imo and floyd did them in more important fights.

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            #15
            Originally posted by daggum
            your argument was that he was a weight manipulator. now it doesnt matter who wanted it? lol ok. how was he a weight manipulator for that fight if it wasnt him that chose it? then you tried to change your argument to it wasnt a big win because oscar was drained. that was never your argument. you gotta boxingscene better than this.

            almost all boxers with bargaining power will use that power to help them win. pac was champ at 140 and fought cotto who was champ at 147 at 145. ok not the best thing but not as bad as 2 champs in the same division fighting at 152 for example...

            bringing up guys like rios and algeiri? thats not weight manipulation. pac was a 147 pound fighter and they fought at 147. if spence fights williams at 154 williams is manipulating the weight? if callum smith fights kovalev at 175 is kovalev manipulating the weight? makes no sense. you can say he was bringing up smaller guys to pick on which is true but thats pretty common in boxing and not exclusive to pac.

            floyd-canelo and floyd-marquez were much worse than anything pac ever did. pac never drained a guy in his same division to gain an advantage and he never refused to make weight to gain an advantage. those are worse offenses imo and floyd did them in more important fights.
            My argument is without the CWS Manny dont beat them.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              Cotto 145, Oscar 147, Margarito 150, Algieri Rios 147.

              All big reasons why Manny won, and Manny refused to fight them without his special your too big come drained, youre too small I slow you down, so much flip flopping in weight.

              Pac is the biggest weight manipulator in the history of boxing.
              -Floyd forced Hatton to fight at 147. Hatton never fought at 147.

              -Floyd forced Marquez to fight at 147. Marquez has been fighting at 135

              -Drained Canelo.

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                #17
                Floyd-JMM/Floyd-canelo? Which CW fight is the worse?

                Originally posted by pasawayako
                Floyd-JMM at CW 144

                Floyd made JMM go up 2 division and floyd cheated JMM at weigh in.

                Floyd-Canelo CW152lbs

                Both boxer are champion at 154lbs but floyd made canelo go down to 152lbs.



                Pacquiao vs Cotto

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Floyd-JMM at CW 144

                  Floyd made JMM go up 2 division and floyd cheated JMM at weigh in.

                  Floyd-Canelo CW152lbs

                  Both boxer are champion at 154lbs but floyd made canelo go down to 152lbs.
                  Easy the JMM. His fanboys said for years he can make 140 yet he failed to make 144. He makes a lw jump up two weight classes then screws him over on the scales lmfao and posters like Larry xxx praise that victory lmfao

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pasawayako
                    JMM said that floyd outweigh him by 15-20lbs. If floyd honored the 144 CW we'll never know if he can beat JMM.


                    there was no 144 cw in that fight

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
                      -Floyd forced Hatton to fight at 147. Hatton never fought at 147.

                      -Floyd forced Marquez to fight at 147. Marquez has been fighting at 135

                      -Drained Canelo.
                      Haha you idiot, Hatton was bigger than Floyd fight night 153 and Floyd was 151.

                      Go learn boxing you only know fanboy BS.

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