(Prime) Mosley vs (Current) PBF...

[amagnin]

prime mosley by lopsided blowout, current mosley by lopsided knock out.

I totally respect your opinion, but given Floyd's skill set how can he really be dominated by any opponent (other then being KO'd early)? Floyd is very hard to hit even for an accurate quick puncher like Shane.

[jai mari078]

I think Floyd by UD. Mosley was never a great "boxer" by definition. He was a quick fighter with good power, but he never really mastered the defensive part of the game. Shane has always been there to hit for his opponents, when he won he would just hit them more. I think the speed variable is a wash and I think Floyd's defense is much better. Therefore I think Floyd wins a decision...not easily but comfortably. Mosley never really dominated anyone at 147... he beat Oscar but it was really close. He beat some average contenders and he lost to Forrest. I think a real prime Shane was at 135 but I think Floyd was even more dominant at that weight so it would be an easier fight.

I am a big DLH fan, but I have to admit that Mosley won the first fight now the second I think that Oscar probably should have gotten that decision. I respect your opinion and you are right about Floyd being the better boxer, but I still think Mosley would have taken him at lightweight. Your right that Mosley never dominated at welter, but neither has Floyd granted he just go there but he looks small at welter and jr. welter was definately a better weight for him, the same goes for Hatton. In my opinion Floyd will eventually lose at welter and I'm not hating or being biased because as I said earlier, I am not even a Mosley fan. To be totally honest if they fought I would probably root for Mosley, but I am not sure how good of a matchup that is anymore or that is as meaningful because Shane is nowhere near his prime.

[amagnin]

I totally agree that 147 is not the weight for Floyd. Against Zab he came in weighing 146 the night of the fight. Clearly, he can make 140 so I don't see why he was so insistent on fighting at 147. Now I guess it makes sense since the big guns at 140 are all moving up.

[jai mari078]

I totally agree that 147 is not the weight for Floyd. Against Zab he came in weighing 146 the night of the fight. Clearly, he can make 140 so I don't see why he was so insistent on fighting at 147. Now I guess it makes sense since the big guns at 140 are all moving up.

If he has trouble making 147, how can he ever be expect to move up and fight guys like Winky or Oscar, and not be affected. I think moving up that much weight could effect him similar to the way it affected Mosley. Guys like Floyd and Mosley who rely so much on speed are definately affected the farther up in weight they move. Winky is big at 154, and Oscar has already said there will be no catch weight. He says if Floyd wants to fight him he will fight him at jr. middle limit, and in negotiations what Oscar says pretty much goes. No one is gonna out negotiate Oscar not even Floyd. I'm not hating, I am just making a point. You yourself admitted he was small at welter and struggled to make weight.

[amagnin]

If he has trouble making 147, how can he ever be expect to move up and fight guys like Winky or Oscar, and not be affected. I think moving up that much weight could effect him similar to the way it affected Mosley. Guys like Floyd and Mosley who rely so much on speed are definately affected the farther up in weight they move. Winky is big at 154, and Oscar has already said there will be no catch weight. He says if Floyd wants to fight him he will fight him at jr. middle limit, and in negotiations what Oscar says pretty much goes. No one is gonna out negotiate Oscar not even Floyd. I'm not hating, I am just making a point. You yourself admitted he was small at welter and struggled to make weight.

Oh I totally agree. 154 is a big mistake for Floyd. His skills may allow him to compete for some time but eventually he will make a mistake and get caught. I think he can survive if he manages his career intelligently. I know you are a big Oscar fan, but I don't think he can beat Floyd at 140; 147; or 154. I see the fight going a lot like the DLH-Mosley fights but we have already discussed why Floyd will be a tougher opponent for Oscar (speed; defense). After he fights DLH, he should immediately go back down to 147 for a match against either Shane or Margarito. Then he can decide as time passes whether he stays at 147 or goes back to 140. Eventually after he beats a few more big name fighters, Floyd can retire with no qualms and maybe even undefeated. The longer he stays in the game the more likely he is to get caught and lose.

[DUPLICITY]

MOSLEY way faster way stronger

OK, there's no such thing as WAY faster than PBF. NO SUCH THING. If you think Mosley's speed is a 10, then PBF is a 9.5.

Actually, I think PBF has better handspeed at 147 than Shane. At 135, Prolly Shane.

[PRboxingfan]

I think this is poorly phrased. Right now, at 147, I favor PBF over Mosely. If both were at 135, I would've picked Mosley in a very, very close fight. Mosley was a beast at lightweight, probably top 3 all-time. I would've picked him against Castillo, Corrales, Lazcano, both Diaz' and everyone else at 135 right now but against PBF I think it would've been a close decision win for Mosley.