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Canelo has fought much worse many times. He fought Hatton's lousy brother to win a title at a cachweight. He fought washed up Kirkland and Angulo. He fought glass jawed welterweight Khan. He fought Loser welterweight Lopez. He fought 40 year old Mosley. He fought lightweight Gomez. Vanes and Rolls are better than any of those guys.
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I’m not talking about the organizational rankings. I’m talking about all 168 pounders.
1. Smith
2. Benavidez
3. Saunders
4. Eubank Jr.
5. Dirrell
6. Plant
7. Uzcategui
8. Truax
9. Chudinov
10. Fielding
Arguably Yildirim, Quillin, and Ryder can be ranked ahead of Fielding.
So like I said, Top 15 at 168 at worst for Fielding. Top 10 at best.
Rolls isn’t as bad as he was made out to be but I could shoot off 30 guys better than him quickly:
Canelo, Golovkin, Jacobs, Charlo, Murata, Brant, Sulecki, Andrade, Derevyanchenko, Khytrov, Murray, Arias, Rosado, Korobov, Falcao, Quigley, Aleem, Centeno Jr., Baysangurov, Williams, Butler, Adams, Akavov, and a ton more.
Not saying Rolls can’t be competitive with any of them or possibly beat some but they’ve all fought and beat decent competition and were at the very least able to survive deep against top competition.
Rolls never fought someone even half decent before Golovkin.
Rolls is Top 30 at best. Top 50 or 60 at worst probably.Comment
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I'm just putting it all together in a way lol...some Canelo fans clown on GGG for not fighting Dervy and instead fighting Vanes...when the whole reason that was even a possibility is because Canelo got popped and suspended...'hey my guy caught popped and can't fight on the date you've been training for...haha if you don't fight this guy now who one belt organization is mandating, on the agreed date, you are a coward'...lol I mean it's just weird honestly.
And if one agrees that GGG should have fought Dervy after May 5th...you are then saying he should have abandoned his camp and also postponed the Canelo rematch, which he had his eyes on and which was the biggest fight for him in every way.
Like if GGG tested positive, and Canelo decided to fight Fielding on short notice instead of Charlo...how could I or anyone else really get on him for that...handle the tune up and then fight GGG next...that's what I would expect and that's what GGG did lol...and I will say it again since for the record...I think Vanes looked ok in the fight vs GGG, not an ideal opponent considering he was inactive for 2 years and coming up a weight class...but the marking of him as a bum in strange imo.
Stories like that just make it seem like the hate/critiques that GGG gets is just not particularly balanced or nuanced...and again it makes potentially valid criticism of him fall flat imo.Comment
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I don't disagree with you in a way man...I think the fact that GGG was a huge step up for Rolls makes that a worse pick for GGG in that way...Rolls was in with some 'OK' guys but no one close to top level...Fielding had been in at least with Callum Smith, even if it was extremely briefly. The fact that Fielding had a 'belt' at 168 made it a more palatable choice for Canelo as well.
I do think there were some positives Rolls had over Fielding too...but for the sake of keeping it civil and saving time I don't really care to get into it lol...I would say they are similar fighters but that is just my 2 cents.
I also won't pretend to argue I know 15 good fighters in either MW or SMW...the guys I bolded in MW I would agree are above Rolls...I think Rolls looked pretty good as well in that fight..seemed like a decent fighter...I wasn't particularly impressed with Rocky vs Canelo, but a lot of that is because I was impressed with Canelo in that fight, he just walked down the bigger man, took his shots, and did some great body work...the opponent may not have been world class imo but Canelo showed Fielding there were levels between them and got him out of there, a good win I think in that way.
I know some don't like triangulation theories...I agree as far as 'fighter X will win this fight because he beat fighter Y'...styles make fights...but I think when you perform at a certain level against common opponents it does show you are probably around that level...Rolls beat Nicholson (his only 'good' win from what I can tell, if you can call it that)...and Nicholson tied with Aleem. So yeah I don't know for sure where Rolls would fall in MW or Fielding at SMW. I guess time will tell a bit there...I would like to see Rolls in with someone else decent at MW just to see what he has.
But yeah I would have much preferred GGG vs someone else in that fight...hopefully his next fight is against a top guy...will be disappointed if notComment
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No they did not.
"If Golovkin goes ahead with the bout against Martirosyan, the IBF said it would invoke its rule 5.H, which states, "If a champion participates in an unsanctioned contest within his prescribed weight limit, the title will be declared vacant whether the champion wins or loses the bout. The championships committee, with the approval of the (IBF) president, will then establish a new champion in that division in accordance with the procedures established and prescribed in these rules."
The IBF rules do provide Golovkin with the ability to seek an exception to the mandatory bout, but the IBF's reasons for not approving the fight in the first place would not bode well for him to get the exception granted. Loeffler acknowledged the letter from the IBF and told ESPN that Golovkin plans to fight May 5 and said their side will seek an exception, adding that he hopes the IBF will grant one. "
The fight wasn't sanctioned, they wanted an exception which was denied and he was stripped. Golovkin knew this and chose to fight Vanes anyway.Comment
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All this foolishness up in here ! 
Recently had a Mexico fanatic claim that when a Mexican fighter beats someone, no matter how close or controversial, that Mexican fighter becomes their "Daddy".
So...by that logic, any fighter who has an L on their record, the person who gave them the L automatically is their "Daddy".
Foolishness I tell ya !!!! Yeeeeehaaaaaa -- I love this site...Comment
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Who cares he is a bum and you know it. Is he better than rolls yes but not by much. You dirty gintards are hyping up rankings only when it’s convenient to meet your agendas. I talk sh it to ggg when it’s warranted like fighting rolls but I call it how I see it regardless of the fighter. Yalll just criticize ggg for breathing and blindly praise and hail conelo.Comment
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