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Valdez is moving up to 130. Stevenson said he wanted to fight him but Valdez is moving up. Lomachenko is really fighting a weight class higher than his best weight. He'll, he could probably still make 126 for the right fight. He's also said he's go down to 130 to fight Tank. But the more realistic fight would be vs Valdez at 130 after Valdez has had one or two fights at the new weight.
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Wouldn't even want to see that fight unless Valdez beats Berchelt or something.
I think Loma beats the sh#t out of him. Anyway, didn't Loma also beat Valdez in the ams? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he did. -
I think Valdez vs Berchelt is more likely.
Lomachenko vs Campbell and then Lopez or Commey in early 2020?Comment
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I doubt it. If you look at TR's roster, they can make plenty of "chasing greatness" fights where guys go up and fight the top guys in other weights like SRl/Duran but he will not make them because it doesn't help his bottom line.
So no Loma/Crawfors and no Valdez/Loma. We may get lucky and get Ramirez/Crawford or Loma/Ramirez but that is because the bigger name will likely win.Comment
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Loma Vs Crawford is an absolute ridiculous fight. Crawford is about 30lbs heavier when they are not making weight. Loma walks around at 140, Crawford at like 160-170.
No one wants to see them fight unless they dislike Loma and want to see him lose.
And you think Valdez has a chance to beat Loma?Comment
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I don't think you know how much they walk around at.
So the only people who want to see the recognized 2 best fighters in the world fight are people that want to see Loma lose? I will assume you are just young and this response is generational.
Historically, we have seen these kinds of fights many, many times. I'm glad you weren't around when Hagler fought SRL, Duran or Hearns, or SRL fought Duran. You may have prevented us from seeing these historic matchups.
No, I don't think Valdez would beat Loma anymore than I think Loma would beat Crawford. I also didn't think Duran would beat SRL or Davey Moore. I didn't think Spinks would beat Holmes. The reason these men are ATG is because they did what fans didn't think they could do. Before you post something dumb or race related, remember I also openly campaigned for Floyd to fight GGG.
Wouldn't it be great for the sport if Loma or Valdez tried the same and accomplished it? Same if Spence fought Canelo?
Or do you see it differently because you are a younger fan?Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-24-2019, 11:25 AM.Comment
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Yes, Loma Vs Crawford is a big mismatch. Loma is a midget, even at 135. Imagine at 147 my god. I think it's awful for the sport. All these mismatches between guys who shouldn't even be getting in the ring with eachother. Mikey Vs Spence: awful...Khan Vs Canelo: awful, GGG Vs Brook: awful. All those fights were absolutely pointless and so would these. No one is calling for those fights. Let's see the best fight the best in their weight class or around it. Not 2-3-4 weight classes above it.
Ps: and yes I know at what weight Loma and Crawford walk around at. They posted it before on social media. I think Crawford was even more...like 170-180lbs, but I didn't remember it correctly.Comment
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Well, I agree with you about the fights you listed and I posted that when they were made. That said, in each of the fights you listed none were like the fights I mentioned where the fighters are uber elite. Brook, Khan and Mikey are good-very good, but not the caliber of fighter I listed like Duran or Floyd.
The last 2 greats from the previous generation-Floyd and Manny-, plus men that were just below them but 1st ballot HOF'ers-JMM, ODH, Cotto, Shane-all fought and won fights against bigger men as they moved up. Loma may be much smaller, but he has the tools and speed to be effective, similar to the great matches we've seen from the past.
It is not unprecedented to ask the elite of the elite to be in fights where they are at a weight disadvantage.Comment
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