Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Thurman: No VADA Testing In Place for July 20 PPV Event

[Combat Talk Radio]

Thurman pretty much already hinted that it was Pac-Man didn’t want testing when he said pac can come in juiced up as much as he wants he still going out him on his a$$ a few weeks ago

Bet the house on Pacquiao.

He's training with Justin Fortune again, too.

Gives Thurman a built-in excuse. It's brilliant.

It's funny though, there was no VADA testing for Pac/Horn, yet we saw how that went, but there was no VADA testing (or any testing) for Pac/Matthysse and we saw how that went. So maybe whatever he's taking isn't as effective anymore unless his opponent is completely washed?

In which case, I still go with Thurman for the decision OR a controversial draw to set up a rematch.

[The Big Dunn]

There was no USADA or VADA testing for the Matthysse fight either. This is strange because the WBA has a clean boxing program that all champions must adhere to.

I guess PBC and Haymon are making Manny look good as he possibly can to set up a PPV with Spence. For casual fans to think Manny has a chance to win he has to come into the fight looking like a dominant fighter. No VADA testing surely allows him to achieve that.

Maybe we should all boycott the fight since there is no VADA/USADA testing.

[James Hunt]

Um, yes it does have everything to do with WADA because USADA is a signatory of WADA and as a result of that, they are required to follow WADA's protocol.

And you mentioned absolutely nothing about the independent lab's activity in these matters. So the lab was paid off to do what? Send false results to WADA? So USADA was bought off and the lab was bought off, too? This conspiracy theory is getting deep, bro!




It's correct that WADA did not oversee the testing for the Mayweather bout, but USADA did. And USADA is a signatory of WADA. Therefore, USADA has to follow WADA's rules.

Here's a statement from a WADA spokesperson on whether any rules were broken. Clearly the last sentence indicates that USADA is bound to the WADA code.





Had USADA broke any of WADA's rules, they would be in violation of the WADA code.


And no, it did not have to be in a hospital. If he was in a hospital, he wouldn't need a TUE at all.

VADA informs about positive tests promoters and state athletic commission in charge of the fight.

USADA only informs promoters but NOT state ACs.

The question is who they inform outside their organizations.

[wrecksracer]

Well there it is.

During this late career "resurgence", Manny has not enrolled in Vada for 2 of his last 3 fights at the age of 40....Manny wants everyone to believe he is clean, but when it comes to drug testing, for whatever reason, he seemingly always wants avenues in which designer PEDS can do undetected.

Draw what conclusions you will

I heard that there wasn't VADA on Thurman vs Garcia. What conclusion were you talking about again?

[travestyny]

VADA informs about positive tests promoters and state athletic commission in charge of the fight.

USADA only informs promoters but NOT state ACs.

The question is who they inform outside their organizations.

In the Mayeather/Pacquiao fight, it was added to the contract that USADA would inform the athletic commission as well as the opponent, which is exactly what occurred.

So unless there is a problem with the testing for some other fight, I don't see what the issue is. And again, the independent lab also reports the findings to WADA.

But I'm not even sure if what you are saying is accurate because it doesn't line up with what has been done in the past.

For example, the New York State Athletic Commission was certainly contacted when Morales popped. There was a discussion of it by USADA when they addressed Thomas Hauser.

By [October 18th], both fighters, the promoter, and the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) had already all been advised by USADA of Mr. Morales' positive test.

The results had also already been reported to WADA by sample number directly by the laboratory.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

So you have USADA revealing the findings to all parties above, and the lab revealing the results to WADA.

[Level37scythe]

There was no USAD or VADA testing for the Matthysse fight either. This is strange because the WBA has a clean boxing program that all champions must adhere to.

I guess PBC and Haymon are making Manny look good as he possibly can to set up a PPV with Spence. For casual fans to think Manny has a chance to win he has to come into the fight looking like a dominant fighter. No VADA testing surely allows him to achieve that.

Maybe we should all boycott the fight since there is no VADA/USADA testing.

We really should, but will we? We're ****** to our IDs

[bigdunny1]

Thurman pretty much already hinted that it was Pac-Man didn’t want testing when he said pac can come in juiced up as much as he wants he still going out him on his a$$ a few weeks ago

Thurman already knows what time it is which is why he through out that dig out saying he didn't want drug testing and let him take all the drugs he wants I'm still beating him.

[Dip_Slide]

Keith is about to enter a world of pain now.

[AdonisCreed]

I dunno nuttin bout no drugs testing doe cause we PBC up in this thang mayne!

Haha haha too funny lol

[AdonisCreed]

Pacquiao just won with that news lol Thurman better start his cycle now before its too late lol Pacquiao is about to be juiced up to the max!! Don't be surprised if Pacquiao knocks Thurman out of the ring lol