PBC and its disgusting MEXICAN bum bashing!

[GhostofDempsey]

Is that why Fury vs Schwarz made less than 1 mil at the gate and tix sold less than 6 thousand with around 1 thousand comp tickets? Fury is REALLY popular in the U.S.

What were Wilder's numbers for his 29th fight? LMAO. The Schwarz fight was a glorified tune up. Wilder won't sniff another $1M pay day without Fury, AJ, Ruiz, or Parker.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Notice how those three fights were sold on the selling power of fighters who established themselves prior to signing with PBC or the respective fights you listed. Pacquiao was already a PPV star which is why Haymon needed him to elevate his welters. Mikey was already a big name, as was Fury. Deontay couldn't sell poosey to a ******.

Pac is the only guy who established himself as a PPV fight before signing with PBC. What are you talking about?!?!?

Listen to yourself. Nobody is getting close to these numbers except Canelo. Now he's on DAZN so it doesn't matter. But Spence/Garcia Fury/Wilder Pac/Broner all sold more than Canelo/Smith. Are you paying attention to what your saying or are you just pressing buttons on your phone?

[GhostofDempsey]

Fury was a big name? He had no other PPV stateside before the Wilder fight. And Mikey was a big name? I've already posted his ticket sales and still they are nothing special. He was also making his PPV debut. Point blank, they did MUCH better than PPVs involving Ward/Kovalev, GGG vs Lemieux/Jacobs and both of Crawford's PPVs.

Pacquiao? That's a total different story and one I would exclude as well.

Consider this, Thurman vs. Garcia wasn't a PPV, Thurman vs. Porter, Garcia vs. Porter, Spence vs. Peterson...no PPV. Wilder? They couldn't sell it. They had to bring in outside talent to get these fighters PPV fights. Not that I'm complaining, I'd like to see more fighters crossing the promoter divide and making the fights fans want to see, but lets not pretend PBC was cranking out PPV stars in-house. That wasn't happening.

[KTFOKING]

Consider this, Thurman vs. Garcia wasn't a PPV, Thurman vs. Porter, Garcia vs. Porter, Spence vs. Peterson...no PPV. Wilder? They couldn't sell it. They had to bring in outside talent to get these fighters PPV fights. Not that I'm complaining, I'd like to see more fighters crossing the promoter divide and making the fights fans want to see, but lets not pretend PBC was cranking out PPV stars in-house. That wasn't happening.

Those weren't PPVs, and during that time, fighters sure weren't getting nearly 10M for a fight either. That is around what both Spence/Garcia got for their fight. But going forward, these will be PPV match ups. I don't think Garcia vs Garcia should be PPV and I still have my doubts that it will, but Spence/Porter sure will be a PPV.

That "outside" talent wasn't on any PPVs before the fights mentioned minus Pacquiao. Fury nor Garcia were on US PPVs before the Wilder/Spence fights. And yet they still doubled every PPV not including Canelo/Mayweather/Pacquiao in the last four or so years.

[GhostofDempsey]

Pac is the only guy who established himself as a PPV fight before signing with PBC. What are you talking about?!?!?

Listen to yourself. Nobody is getting close to these numbers except Canelo. Now he's on DAZN so it doesn't matter. But Spence/Garcia Fury/Wilder Pac/Broner all sold more than Canelo/Smith. Are you paying attention to what your saying or are you just pressing buttons on your phone?

None of the PBC fighters could sell a PPV in-house. They had to bring in outside talent...Pac, Fury, Mikey, etc. For the record, I'm not complaining. I'd rather see fighters crossing over and doing business with outside promoters than keeping everything in-house. But let's not pretend PBC could get PPV sales without bringing in help from the outside.

[_Rexy_]

PBC didn't make Ruiz the HW champ, he did that himself!

If you listen to Andy relating how he got the fight ... he by-passed Haymon and contacted Eddie Hearn himself. It was only after Hearn and DAZN gave him the green light that Ruiz went to Haymon, told him the fight was there if he wanted it, and that he did want it and knew he was going to win it.

don't make me block you too.

[The Big Dunn]

It seem all PBC top fighters & upcoming top prospects is bum bash Mexican journeyman that have no chance! Why did Charlo fight Cota when he is coming off a lose to Jeison Rosario! Why didnt Charlo face Rosario instead! Its all part of the Mayweather/Al Haymon strategy to get Mexican fans to dislike their fighters and pay to watch them lose! Sorry to say it PBC but most Mexican fans ain't falling for that old trick! This ain't the early 2000s where we had no internet to stream illegally! Thank god for illegal streaming! **** THE PBC!

Nope PBc is pro black nothing else.

Haymon has his litttle “Brutha” talk with them and they fall for it and feed off any non black c lever fighters.

PBC has been unable to develop any of their fighters into PPV attractions. Wilder, Thurman, Spence, Garcia, Stevenson, Charlo brothers, Russell Jr., etc. Of course the PBC apologists will want you to believe they are all getting paid way more under the table than advertised. Let’s be real, if Thurman, Garcia, Porter, we’re earning more than $2M for a title fight they would be bragging all over social media. Part of the problem is that we have too many casuals today who are fans of promoters instead of fighters. Rallying behind Haymon as if he was some sort of savior. He can’t build stars or household names with all the talent he has. Yet they continue to sign with him so guys like Charlo brothers can fight low risk/medium reward fights.

PBC is not in good waters with budget, so paying C level Mexican fighters a small bag, as in LSC’s last opponent, PBC is able to continue the high premium salary for its fighters so that they’re able to thank you know who.

It’s basically filler fights atm while PBC strategizes roadmaps since DAZN is coming up.

Only the naive think that Harrison was the one who planned the ankle injury. PBC needs to push back some fights to bleed into 2020 to stay a float now that Jrock won his straps and Andy Ruiz Jr. is a name. It’s basically because of DAZN that these things are happening. PBC is smart to stay a float like this.

It’s obvious, Haymon consulted Rigo that a new style is a must in order to sell Rigo and PBC. Pedro Diaz didn’t sell his soul, and now with Ronnie Shields as Rigo’s trainer, it’s more cookie for PBC LDBC fanboys.

PBC knows exactly what they doing

Hymen/PBC has done NOTHING for Mexican boxers. Facts.

PBC didn't make Ruiz the HW champ, he did that himself!

If you listen to Andy relating how he got the fight ... he by-passed Haymon and contacted Eddie Hearn himself. It was only after Hearn and DAZN gave him the green light that Ruiz went to Haymon, told him the fight was there if he wanted it, and that he did want it and knew he was going to win it.

I would just ask the TS to look at the responses from posters like ghostofdempsey, noted racist, and guys like Frankie and death adder, all of whom have been banned for racist comments. And the comments from guys who don't like Haymon.

Haymon is doing nothing different than other promotional companies. I don't see how he "uses" the Mexican audience anymore than any other promoter has.

It seems posters are ok if Arum or ODH uses the Mexican audience but if Haymon does it then it becomes a crime and is bad for the sport.

Were any of you that responded in anger upset when Arum puta Rey Beltran in with Crawford? But when Mares was going to fight Tank there is outrage.

Come on fellas, what is this REALLY about?

[Worick]

I've been saying this for the longest time. Lmao and all the pbc morons are saying they should be grateful for the opportunity and payday. Ethnicity aside why not just make competitive fights instead or is haymon just that much of a philanthropist

[HanzGruber]

PBC has been unable to develop any of their fighters into PPV attractions. Wilder, Thurman, Spence, Garcia, Stevenson, Charlo brothers, Russell Jr., etc. Of course the PBC apologists will want you to believe they are all getting paid way more under the table than advertised. Let’s be real, if Thurman, Garcia, Porter, we’re earning more than $2M for a title fight they would be bragging all over social media. Part of the problem is that we have too many casuals today who are fans of promoters instead of fighters. Rallying behind Haymon as if he was some sort of savior. He can’t build stars or household names with all the talent he has. Yet they continue to sign with him so guys like Charlo brothers can fight low risk/medium reward fights.

Someone ask this idiot how many PPv fighters arum and Oscar have made in the last 10 years for me

[Boxfan83]

Well you aren't sh.t in boxing until you beat a Mexican so it makes sense. There is no money beating a black or white bum.

Its like when I am getting off the freeway and I see a black/white bum begging and a Mexican selling flowers or oranges. If I give my $ to the black or white I get nothing out of it, at least if I give my money to the Mexican I get fruit or flowers.